From owner-cvs-all Wed Jun 5 17: 1:21 2002 Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from apollo.backplane.com (apollo.backplane.com [216.240.41.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B537537B404; Wed, 5 Jun 2002 17:01:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from apollo.backplane.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by apollo.backplane.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g56016qI007844; Wed, 5 Jun 2002 17:01:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g56016Ij007843; Wed, 5 Jun 2002 17:01:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 17:01:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <200206060001.g56016Ij007843@apollo.backplane.com> To: "David E. O'Brien" Cc: "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" , Poul-Henning Kamp , John Baldwin , cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/etc/defaults rc.conf References: <20020605084755.K91379@wantadilla.lemis.com> <50718.1023287177@critter.freebsd.dk> <20020606091023.B92654@wantadilla.lemis.com> Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I don't think ntpd -gqx is an adequate replacement for ntpdate. Depending on how you are receiving time updates it could take several minutes before ntpd -gqx returns. Given that, I would appreciate it if this commit could be backed out. I ran a test on my workstation. It took three minutes for ntpd -gqx to set the time. I understand that the manual page for ntpd says that ntpdate is to be retired but there is no adequate replacement for it yet (certainly not ntpd -gqx !). -Matt Matthew Dillon :On Wednesday, 5 June 2002 at 16:26:17 +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: :> In message <20020605084755.K91379@wantadilla.lemis.com>, "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" writes: :> :>>>> ntpdate(8) may be deprecated in the mind of the ntpd(8) author but :>>>> the replacement functionality isn't the same yet. :>>> :>>> If ntpdate is going away soon, we need to experiement with the :>>> replacement now. :>> :>> What's the replacement? :> :> Ideally, somebody would sit down and write a sntpd(8), which would be a :> light-weight, client-side-only NTP daemon without refclock support, :> without weird remote-configration stuff and other excess luggage. :> :> If somebody wants to volounteer, I will happily provide detailed :> guidance on the timekeeping magic needed. : :A good suggestion, but it misses the point. We shouldn't be throwing :out things like ntpdate *until* we have a replacement. : :What's the reason for deprecating ntpdate, anyway? : :Greg :-- :See complete headers for address and phone numbers : To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message