From owner-svn-src-all@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 19 04:06:07 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 13AE8CC8 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 04:06:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nm25-vm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm25-vm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.155]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A92BF3A46 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 04:06:06 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1408421162; bh=Nu2T8G3mNRFQhFttdVQk9mxeOLnhS/bKAOSbgwL4+sI=; h=Received:Received:Received:X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:References:To:X-Mailer; b=smNg78XrmrwsOJW2W7Xa6KQAmMrnXrs14zbmRuv0YoHY8sVBXyuHpvRPkCe4q+hAVPmozc3s42KuReLpRDBHHquyJs35LEiglIAcUJd8iMGxzQohMMdhEm9KftQ8gp6rpoH9qwE+U96Z0+tTSh3nW+sWzwwW3dqmD8wxzmWesT5YooY/lNmDZGyhhK9AMADbhJgxAfewrb4e1j4yH0VYB8nPfFpmCtgWL++DC401nnk2ni+lXwyKRSw2lhu7NEe3lCR12ROxg4G1ZXF7jP37IhPcLuFjDdeJYV4Y5LavvoXfoLvHHBFjVBBpGcUllLmr+0/2XaJUhCRVf5WzcKkcyg== DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s2048; d=yahoo.com; b=mqUl2reXvJpMCE5OsIsMXZygsqWPY2ZkDrZT/dfh2Q3YTC1AQb7vjYRfvxDQEU8do/aTWO/IFjHcLaz5vvK59WnI2WcnCn38hLwc39NHnNR80WQsjYdbmyUevw8DUjSKCPS+Zu1zNR28SvzpDCBHB3ABaSDqbHCAmAb8KAFLESZZMKS6bhbRP6NehkFnXrt84FtPldVHs/ucBpG+bOwhJv9rvjTOT/lPam9bYXVlDaQuztbT/TJRIek5WSMYZ9nGhjafsRBXUAS45ZE3Pc+xXA3bjEcctpLynwkmQ12QMlBOYeMrdpjB3Pf5wMVETBvnunjRobfydM6OIArteN38gQ==; Received: from [98.139.212.150] by nm25.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Aug 2014 04:06:02 -0000 Received: from [98.139.211.203] by tm7.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Aug 2014 04:06:02 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp212.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Aug 2014 04:06:02 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 753276.17919.bm@smtp212.mail.bf1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: avF3vMcVM1kuEJ55eKOw4bjwP3.m45feVMBAAfYHHR6gXqo kfgcMdPs96eZD.OFv5CAHm4NU73wL_htpKRpGP2KVwDcOs826AXy4HYa7j27 ugQIQrlHU9rs.I8vdIc9P_T6k.x_F0X4jta1l_s5tV0Sb3ceJsGX2AfAgW.1 .yvheFbbluuZTyf3O.e0XQMC.zL9CdAaBG9xuX7fskGLgHNXDlitDv38u6m6 twqMkC2rRCG7FqO2eWjuy2L9Xqd7K52ALI69nVbPT6DI3UapKm_Zrwj7Em39 ExW4TiJLaPfFUQx3KMMKVXIFg4oOmTMstbRkxSQk1goU.45YKU11kJveENbA 56Zylmzyi9Kg59qOCTGpltaN3vE6NXBmA3u0iBOGgVl_x04coyj.pvu_G7u1 td28hh54kjIYSVnKazuiFFpqEIe9aIt4GX7a9X7blPpn1.2UjYZl.8utJsP1 gva0_pszthJFBZBmn6gyA1UpeyazD8CbpUkP9ucClvH02IEpPg2lWtQn7F9c ofH095IA8qESHXMjAoNPBqZfpuySivpRAeQ-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: xcjD0guswBAZaPPIbxpWwLcp9Unf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: svn commit: r270099 - in stable: 10/contrib/gcc/config/i386 9/contrib/gcc/config/i386 From: Pedro Giffuni In-Reply-To: <20140819013112.GA5938@FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 23:05:59 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <38DE0BE3-EE01-4B9C-A604-74F95FD5F084@freebsd.org> References: <201408171308.s7HD8Fnh099147@svn.freebsd.org> <20140817131942.GA38672@FreeBSD.org> <8CA269F6-BCD2-4E78-947F-682214367F36@FreeBSD.org> <20140817134509.GA47327@FreeBSD.org> <9181921C-43BB-48C9-B63D-7C6F99D7A763@FreeBSD.org> <53F25399.40204@freebsd.org> <20140819013112.GA5938@FreeBSD.org> To: Alexey Dokuchaev X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Cc: svn-src-stable@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org, Dimitry Andric X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 04:06:07 -0000 Il giorno 18/ago/2014, alle ore 20:31, Alexey Dokuchaev = ha scritto: > On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 02:27:21PM -0500, Pedro Giffuni wrote: >> I personally stopped merging stuff to the stable/8 branch and more = recently >> to the stable/9 branch as I don't run those anymore. In the case of = the >> stable/8 branch I find the ancient version of binutils a real threat/ >> limitation. >=20 > Contemporary version of binutils can be installed from the port, = right? I > don't have a problem with it since binutils are relatively fast to = build > and releases do not happen that often to become annoying. >=20 We are talking about updates to the base that may be affected by the = binutils version. I have no idea if the base system in stable/8 will work with the version = in ports but still that doesn=92t solve the issue one might have merging code that = expects binutils 2.17.1+ and that will therefore break the tinderbox. >> I would really suggest people move on to at least stable/9 which has = all >> the clang cleanups and should be functionally much better. >=20 > Clang/LLVM is a nuisance to build, which is one of the reason to avoid = 9+ > on my rusty laptop. I run -CURRENT more or less happily on modern = hardware. >=20 I meant 9.x has cleanups that make the base system build cleanly with = both clang and gcc. 8.x has been lagging many suchcleanups. You can disable building clang in /etc/src.conf, and I actually do that = when testing crossbuilds. Pedro.