From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Jan 25 18:11:37 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rockstar.stealthgeeks.net (h-66-134-120-173.LSANCA54.covad.net [66.134.120.173]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 15BF437B400 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 18:11:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 55628 invoked by uid 1001); 26 Jan 2002 02:11:33 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 26 Jan 2002 02:11:33 -0000 Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 18:11:33 -0800 (PST) From: Patrick Greenwell To: Mike Meyer Cc: Bob K , Subject: Re: Firewall config non-intuitiveness In-Reply-To: <15442.3825.38443.26350@guru.mired.org> Message-ID: <20020125180928.K55603-100000@rockstar.stealthgeeks.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 25 Jan 2002, Mike Meyer wrote: > Patrick Greenwell types: > > On Fri, 25 Jan 2002, Bob K wrote: > > > The problem is that you're not taking into account the installed base of > > > users who twiddle this knob. How many angry firewall admins will come > > > into being when the behaviour suddenly stops being, "don't load any > > > firewall rules" and starts being, "disable the firewall"? > > I could be mistaken, but it would seem to me that the number of > > individuals that really want to deny all traffic to and from their > > machine(which is the current result of setting firewall_enable to no) > > is relatively small. > > Actually, that's the base you want to start with when building a > firewall. You then go on to allow in traffic that you want to pass > through. That's right, but it that case you wouldn't be setting firewall_enable to "no" since you *want* a firewall. /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ Patrick Greenwell Stealthgeeks,LLC. Operations Consulting http://www.stealthgeeks.net \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message