From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Oct 6 00:11:10 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0967F16A40F for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 00:11:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from karl@FS.denninger.net) Received: from FS.denninger.net (wsip-70-169-168-7.pn.at.cox.net [70.169.168.7]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1144E43D5F for ; Fri, 6 Oct 2006 00:11:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from karl@FS.denninger.net) Received: from fs.denninger.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by FS.denninger.net (8.13.6/8.13.1) with SMTP id k960B13K002701 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 2006 19:11:01 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from karl@FS.denninger.net) Received: from fs.denninger.net [127.0.0.1] by Spamblock-sys (LOCAL); Thu Oct 5 19:11:01 2006 Received: (from karl@localhost) by FS.denninger.net (8.13.6/8.13.1/Submit) id k960B1EA002699 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 5 Oct 2006 19:11:01 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from karl) Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2006 19:11:01 -0500 From: Karl Denninger To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20061006001101.GD2473@FS.denninger.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20061005151925.GA1156@FS.denninger.net> <20061005190822.GA15547@icarus.home.lan> <20061005202144.GA11105@FS.denninger.net> <20061006000648.S36667@atlantis.atlantis.dp.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20061006000648.S36667@atlantis.atlantis.dp.ua> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: Karl's Sushi and Packet Smashers X-Die-Spammers: Spammers cheerfully broiled for supper and served with ketchup! Subject: Re: Recommendations for a serial port card you can actually BUY? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2006 00:11:10 -0000 On Fri, Oct 06, 2006 at 12:22:09AM +0300, Dmitry Pryanishnikov wrote: > > Hello! > > On Thu, 5 Oct 2006, Karl Denninger wrote: > >The problem that is nailing me particularly hard right now is the second > >one > >- I have embedded control systems that I speak to over a RS-232 interface > >(the devices are actually '485 on a common bus but talked to via a 232/485 > >converter) and it simply does not work on 6.x using the Comtrol driver > >at all. 100ms delays and the like are one thing - we're talking about > >delays in characters reaching the application of one second or more, and in > > What makes me wonder is whether delays you're seeing have the same nature > as recent watchdog timeouts on various Gbit NICs observed by many RELENG_6 > users (interrupt processing scheduling problem I suspect), or they're > strictly rp(4)-specific. It might be. I am NOT having problems with em0 however, and I DO have it in the box.... > >With FreeBSD 5.x being EOL'd this is now turning into a critical problem. > >I can't in good conscience put packages out there that have been EOL'd nor > >offer meaningful support on them. While 5.4 has been reasonably stable for > >some time, that is now declared a "dead" release. 5.5 is similarly on that > >road. The only right path forward is into the 6.x world, but I can't get > >there from where I am now unless this problem can be resolved. > > If I were you, I'd try to prepare easy-repeatable test case so developer > (or just curious and clever person) who has Comtrol Serial Port Card could > recreate the problem. And no, I don't have either hardware or time > available. Its easy for me to do that, but so far nobody has picked up the PR. -- -- Karl Denninger (karl@denninger.net) Internet Consultant & Kids Rights Activist http://www.denninger.net My home on the net - links to everything I do! http://scubaforum.org Your UNCENSORED place to talk about DIVING! http://genesis3.blogspot.com Musings Of A Sentient Mind