From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Aug 19 10:47:26 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F77B10656A4 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 2010 10:47:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from v.t.mueller@continum.net) Received: from mailsrv1.continum.net (mr1.continum.net [80.72.129.121]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31D6B8FC14 for ; Thu, 19 Aug 2010 10:47:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from c483.continum.net ([80.72.130.250] helo=[172.16.4.65]) by mr1.continum.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Om2ee-0002wS-3m; Thu, 19 Aug 2010 12:47:28 +0200 Message-ID: <4C6D0BBB.90304@continum.net> Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 12:47:23 +0200 From: "V. T. Mueller, Continum" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?UTF-8?B?RGFnLUVybGluZyBTbcO4cmdyYXY=?= References: <4C6505A4.9060203@FreeBSD.org> <4C6C1CFE.6060900@FreeBSD.org> <20100818.121635.431102609571763034.imp@bsdimp.com> <86bp8zdkp4.fsf@ds4.des.no> In-Reply-To: <86bp8zdkp4.fsf@ds4.des.no> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Official request: Please make GNU grep the default X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 10:47:26 -0000 Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: > There is a lesson here: people who are unsatisfied with the performance > of ${TOOL} should profile it before they start a flamefest on -current. If you're alluding to Dougs original email, I will strictly disagree. He found a performance issue which noone had seen or brought up before and gave feedback to Gabor in a constructive and distinctively polite manner. I would also second, that changing back the default immediately then would have been the better choice. That others supported Gabor in doing profiling and suggesting improvements is a fine thing, and contributes to what makes this community stand out from others. In other words: as long as there are unresolved issues, the default should be set to GNU grep. This doesn't stop anyone from improving the BSD grep we're all waiting for. It only does good to those who rely on using grep - expecting correctness and speed. My $0.02 vt -- Volker T. Mueller Continum AG Bismarckallee 7d 79098 Freiburg i. Br. Tel. +49 761 21711171 Fax. +49 761 21711198 http://www.continum.net Sitz der Gesellschaft: Freiburg im Breisgau Registergericht: Amtsgericht Freiburg, HRB 6866 Vorstand: Rolf Mathis, Volker T. Mueller Vorsitzender d. Aufsichtsrats: Prof. Dr. Karl-F. Fischbach