From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Feb 26 6:59:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (phoenix.welearn.com.au [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29C1814F57 for ; Fri, 26 Feb 1999 06:59:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sue@phoenix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.0) id BAA04392; Sat, 27 Feb 1999 01:58:45 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: <19990227015840.62022@welearn.com.au> Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 01:58:41 +1100 From: Sue Blake To: cjclark@home.com Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: EDitors [was: minimal download for a test install ?] References: <19990226194453.45866@welearn.com.au> <199902261450.JAA06018@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88e In-Reply-To: <199902261450.JAA06018@cc942873-a.ewndsr1.nj.home.com>; from Crist J. Clark on Fri, Feb 26, 1999 at 09:50:59AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Feb 26, 1999 at 09:50:59AM -0500, Crist J. Clark wrote: > Sue Blake wrote, > > On Thu, Feb 25, 1999 at 11:33:26PM -0800, D Pilgrim wrote: > > > On Feb 26, 1999 @ around 04:55 GMT, Crist J. Clark wrote: > > > >Eric Jacoboni wrote, > > > >> So my question : what are the absolute mandatory files/directories > > > >> to have a minimal FBSD system ? (be cool with my phone bill ;-) > > > > > > > >Depends on what abilities are mandatory to you. Generally, people say > > > >that the 'bin' and 'manpages' distributions are the _absolute_ > > > >minimum. > > > > > > If I recall correctly (been years since a minimal install), bin includes > > > only vi, in which case you might want to add emacs to > > > the list if you're none too keen on vi. > > > > No-no-no, bin includes ed, and ed is a perfectly good editor. > > Whoa! Either you're making jokes that a lot of newbies might not get > or you made a little mistake there, Sue. And here comes Chris, Right on cue :-) Got any better ideas for stopping people from being so bloody serious round here? > 'ed' is a line editor. In > fact, vi is a 'visual' (and more user friendly =) version of ed. Well that's a bit of a stretch. It's a visual version of ex (and ex is a more complex version of ed) but *I* regard ed as more friendly than vi. (The more perceptive among you might detect a slight bias against vi here) > Did you mean 'ee,' Sue? Yes I could have meant ee, but no, I didn't mean ee. You can get the full story at http://www.daemonnews.org/199810/editing.html > BTW, there is a pretty funny (but I'm a geek, but if you're on this > list too...) Usenet message about ed, vi, and emacs that comes with > the emacs distribution. See the message with subject, "The True Path > (long)" in /usr/local/share/emacs/20.2/etc/JOKES. Aha, I never knew that file was there before, thanks! Of course, I agree with every word and can't imagine how anyone could have pulled this finely written and well researched treatise on ed into a jokes file that is only available after installing emacs :-) -- Regards, -*Sue*- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message