From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 18 00:52:32 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53F6116A4CE for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2005 00:52:32 +0000 (GMT) Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B609943D49 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2005 00:52:31 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sander.vesik@gmail.com) Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id j1so417590rnf for ; Thu, 17 Feb 2005 16:52:31 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=NPbU1IIRDzFGd2qNEE7+PzO2Cn0u3555kn079ks7U4G/ozxtYy0JbYyZ5POe7JRr6kdYmxd3FzBdiOXMmO8n+L/vxq2gSp3CmLKmAIcKglzMsQ/EisTkxtB/qt9SOhaZoh+m3MJRklBdW4f8PqFXY5Bk5V+3NpAHaBn0JUFOqQU= Received: by 10.38.15.45 with SMTP id 45mr30511rno; Thu, 17 Feb 2005 16:52:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.66.46 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Feb 2005 16:52:31 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 02:52:31 +0200 From: Sander Vesik To: "Julian H. Stacey" In-Reply-To: <200502172112.j1HLCQgX023578@fire.jhs.private> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <200502172112.j1HLCQgX023578@fire.jhs.private> cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Assuming We Want FreeBSD to Grow: Who Is It For? X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Sander Vesik List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 00:52:32 -0000 On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 22:12:26 +0100, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > Sander Vesik wrote: > > On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 13:33:22 +0100, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > > > > > > Much hot air on advocacy@ does not qualify. Let's > > > - Tell people to move to chat@freebsd.org. > > > - Report offenders to postmaster@freebsd.org for blocking. > > > - Request postmaster@freebsd.org appends to list definition: > > > "Not for arguing about what FreeBSD is or where it should go." > > > (developers on current@ etc, are unpaid, & advocacy@ people > > > have no right to direct what FreeBSD is & will be.) > > > > I think its hould be slightly more openly worded - for example, > > discussions (i mean rational discussions with technical details) of > > what FreeBSD is may be in some warranted - consider for example > > producing materials to promote the use of FreeBSD in embedded systems > > or similar. > > OK, fine. Could you (or someone else) please suggest exact words to > replace current http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy > Furthering the Use of FreeBSD. Share ideas and plan to > increase the number of companies and individuals using FreeBSD. > Once a number of us back a tighter list definition, we can send > it to postmaster@freebsd.org to request it be the official list definition. > .. & then use it to tell windy people to go to chat@ or be blocked off list. > Thanks How about something along the lines of: Furthering the Use of FreeBSD. Share ideas and plan to increase the number of companies and individuals using FreeBSD. Discussion of the technical, govrenance or policy aspects of FreeBSD, its community and development should only happen for clarifying said details for some document being written. ? The wording probably needs some more polish though. > > - > Julian Stacey Net & Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com > Mail in Ascii (Html=Spam). Ihr Rauch = mein allergischer Kopfschmerz. >