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Date:      Thu, 05 Mar 1998 08:06:50 -0000 (GMT)
From:      Duncan Barclay <dmlb@ragnet.demon.co.uk>
To:        Simon Shapiro <shimon@simon-shapiro.org>
Cc:        hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, julian@whistle.com, Wilko Bulte <wilko@yedi.iaf.nl>
Subject:   Re: SCSI Bus redundancy...
Message-ID:  <XFMail.980305080650.dmlb@computer.my.domain>
In-Reply-To: <XFMail.980304152804.shimon@simon-shapiro.org>

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On 04-Mar-98 Simon Shapiro wrote:
> 
> On 04-Mar-98 Wilko Bulte wrote:
>  
> ...
> 
>>  An extra power supply is money well spent. We ship all our standalone
>>  arrays at least with N+1, optional 2N power. 2N gives you 2 seperate
>>  power entry points to the power grid. Now we only need to educate people
>>  to use two different power branches (phases? what's the right English
>> term?)
> 
> The old DPT 9W tower (made by DEC) had an interesting feature, where the
> power INPUT was switchable too.  If the AC to one supply went dowm it will
> draw AC from the other.
> 
> Yes, 2N P/S is trivial to do (2 diods/circuit if I remember right) and
> cheap.  Technically, you want each supply fed from a different phase.  In
> the US they are referredto as ``independant circuits''.  I have seen people
> paying lots of money to get that, where they have 220V right in the same
> room (220BAC in the US is 2-phases, 180 degrees apart, unlike the European
> 3 phasees 120 degrees apart.  Yest, you can get 3phase circuits in the US
> too).  The hot wire in a 220VAC, in the us is 117VAC to ground, 220VAC
> hot-hot.
> 

Are you sure you guys want to use different phases of a the same feed? Remember
all two or three phases come into the building from the same sub-station down
the same pice of cable. Most comman fault is a digger cutting this
cable taking out all three phases or temp. shorts in the
overheads to the sub-station (auto reset ater a couple of minutes; usually
from wind blowing the cables together).

You need feeds from seperate sub-stations.

Duncan

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Duncan Barclay          | God smiles upon the little children,
dmlb@ragnet.demon.co.uk | the alcoholics, and the permanently stoned.
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