From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 24 11:59:36 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9721C37B401 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 11:59:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE9DF43FB1 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 11:59:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h6OIxYju085776; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 11:59:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h6OIxXw8085775; Thu, 24 Jul 2003 11:59:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 11:59:33 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Mike Makonnen Message-ID: <20030724185933.GC85582@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <20030719171138.GA86442@dragon.nuxi.com> <20030721202314.GC21068@dragon.nuxi.com> <20030722151138.GB72888@dragon.nuxi.com> <20030722153056.GM863@starjuice.net> <20030723002531.GA44452@kokeb.ambesa.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030723002531.GA44452@kokeb.ambesa.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.1-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 cc: freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Things to remove from /rescue X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.org List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 18:59:36 -0000 On Tue, Jul 22, 2003 at 08:25:32PM -0400, Mike Makonnen wrote: > > b) want to maintain network security while accessing that resource. > > What security? There are no network services running in single-user, > so what is there to secure? I'm glad I'm not the only one seeing things this way. > I won't complain if it's kept, but I would prefer just the bare minimum > be kept in /rescue. Once you go beyond that and into "well s/he might > need..." territory then we might as well throw in everything in the > base system. IMO, /rescue should be the absolute essentials _only_. > Instead of theorizing reasons why someone might need ipfw and friends, > why don't we wait until we get a bug report about a specific situation > in which it was needed before we put it back in. Thank you for expressing this so well. I do think we should wait for PR's telling real experiences rather than theorizing so much in the "what if"'s. > Also, while you're at it, David, I think you can get rid of rcorder > as well. I don't know why one would need it to fix a hosed root, > and besides it's staticaly linked to begin with. Will do! :-) -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org)