From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Mon Jul 3 20:57:59 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D16ED9EFF2D for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2017 20:57:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 000.fbsd@quip.cz) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B765881CE7 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2017 20:57:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 000.fbsd@quip.cz) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id B676D9EFF2C; Mon, 3 Jul 2017 20:57:59 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B60289EFF2B for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2017 20:57:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 000.fbsd@quip.cz) Received: from elsa.codelab.cz (elsa.codelab.cz [94.124.105.4]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7754281CE6; Mon, 3 Jul 2017 20:57:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 000.fbsd@quip.cz) Received: from elsa.codelab.cz (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by elsa.codelab.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30895284A2; Mon, 3 Jul 2017 22:57:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from illbsd.quip.test (ip-86-49-16-209.net.upcbroadband.cz [86.49.16.209]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by elsa.codelab.cz (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F15722849E; Mon, 3 Jul 2017 22:57:54 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: sysutils/tmux - strange behaviour with new version 2.4 / 2.5 To: Kevin Oberman Cc: Mathieu Arnold , FreeBSD Ports , v@fatpipi.com, Adam Weinberger References: <5919E2CE.5010109@quip.cz> <59511228.1010104@quip.cz> <132BF7C7-B077-4A99-A831-D9B923ECF3CD@adamw.org> <19bda199-f639-1b71-e4d6-cd7967d24b83@FreeBSD.org> <595A3D96.5040300@quip.cz> From: Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> Message-ID: <595AAFD2.8090807@quip.cz> Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2017 22:57:54 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:42.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/42.0 SeaMonkey/2.39 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2017 20:57:59 -0000 Kevin Oberman wrote on 2017/07/03 21:26: > On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 5:50 AM, Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> wrote: >> >> I talked to tmux developer. He confirms the changes but stated: >> >> " You can't rely on the terminal scrollback to be complete when running in >> full terminal applications like tmux. Use tmux copy mode instead." >> >> https://github.com/tmux/tmux/issues/984 >> >> So I am stuck on versi 2.3 forever - I need "old" scrolling for my >> workflow very often. >> >> Miroslav Lachman > > > Damn! Looks like I'm heading back to screen(1). This strikes me as a simply > awful "optimization" as it breaks a rather common use of the tool. And > tmux(1) WAS far superior to screen(1), at least for my uses. Now to learn > how to use "screen" again. Exactly. Screen is broken in some ways, I cannot use it with JuiceSSH on Android platform so I switched to tmux few years ago... and now? Now the tmux is broken in a way that I cannot use it even from my PC-BSD desktop in Putty session. So I must stay on 2.3 or go back to screen. I am very sad. Miroslav Lachman