From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 19 03:58:41 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7196016A4C7 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 03:58:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dennisolvany@gmail.com) Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.236]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C39FD43D4C for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 03:58:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dennisolvany@gmail.com) Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i23so943390wra for ; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 20:58:39 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=keSUEodghnf4FdaiaFeQMZjQ3UG9FSeKDbRzmIYyRGlb1+guau7T4XojIZwVAtoZoNvhBE2dS9Xi0/brRy4XuiI1yZ4lH7FexOGeCioGiNAt9vKCYBoysq/p89CsoFS5p54x4gL6dF07GdYr7OE+hgFAOqQEHG9Ym6kbBWfb/NQ= Received: by 10.54.98.5 with SMTP id v5mr5529417wrb; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 20:58:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?195.16.87.34? ( [195.16.87.34]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 11sm667018wrl.2006.06.18.20.58.35; Sun, 18 Jun 2006 20:58:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <449620E9.1090203@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 22:58:33 -0500 From: Dennis Olvany User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060211) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: David Hoffman References: <4495F9A1.8040407@gmail.com> <449608A8.3010101@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Ingrid Kast Fuller , thisdayislong , freebsd-chat@freebsd.org, freebsd-user-groups@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: Fwd: Serious breach of copyright -- First post X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 03:58:41 -0000 David Hoffman wrote: > Now, even if you're correct that Brett doesn't have a valid > copyright (which he does) and that unspecified entities unknown own > the copyright to the article (which they don't), we still have the > same problem: FreeBSD claiming to own something they don't, and not > even attributing it to its true authors. Derivative work may be a bit of a stretch. A failed attempt at adopting your point of view that facts are actually copyrightable. Math books are descriptive and thus copyrightable, though the facts contained therein are not. The article in question is not at all descriptive. If it were, it would be a different story. It is a 100% factual procedure.