From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Mon Jul 27 17:29:14 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 208EF36977C for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2020 17:29:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: from mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (unknown [127.0.1.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BFmy160b1z467y for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2020 17:29:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) id CBAE83699D7; Mon, 27 Jul 2020 17:29:13 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB75936977B for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2020 17:29:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: from gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (br1.CN84in.dnsmgr.net [69.59.192.140]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4BFmy13nkwz46Gl; Mon, 27 Jul 2020 17:29:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: from gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id 06RHT4aS070470; Mon, 27 Jul 2020 10:29:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: (from freebsd-rwg@localhost) by gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id 06RHT3XN070469; Mon, 27 Jul 2020 10:29:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <202007271729.06RHT3XN070469@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Subject: Re: nightly snapshot for CURRENT ? In-Reply-To: <20200727144341.GI34565@FreeBSD.org> To: Glen Barber Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2020 10:29:03 -0700 (PDT) CC: Emmanuel Vadot , current@freebsd.org, re@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL121h (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4BFmy13nkwz46Gl X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; ASN(0.00)[asn:13868, ipnet:69.59.192.0/19, country:US]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2020 17:29:14 -0000 > On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 04:23:22PM +0200, Emmanuel Vadot wrote: > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 14:14:13 +0000 > > Glen Barber wrote: > > > > > On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 12:29:42PM +0200, Emmanuel Vadot wrote: > > > > On Fri, 24 Jul 2020 22:28:39 +0000 > > > > Glen Barber wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 12:14:52AM +0200, Emmanuel Vadot wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, 24 Jul 2020 22:06:07 +0000 > > > > > > Glen Barber wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 10:31:35PM +0200, Emmanuel Vadot wrote: > > > > > > > > On Tue, 9 Jun 2020 22:04:07 +0200 > > > > > > > > Emmanuel Vadot wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 9 Jun 2020 19:56:30 +0000 > > > > > > > > > Glen Barber wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 09, 2020 at 09:47:56PM +0200, Emmanuel Vadot wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've just hit again something that I've hit (and probably others too) > > > > > > > > > > > often. > > > > > > > > > > > If a change in base break some ports and it's snapshoted in the txz > > > > > > > > > > > available at download.freebsd.org, you need to wait a week for the next > > > > > > > > > > > tarball to be available. > > > > > > > > > > > Since poudriere uses the tarball when you setup a jail it means that > > > > > > > > > > > the only solution you have is to recreate your jail by building it, and > > > > > > > > > > > since building world nowdays is very expensive that delay your work too > > > > > > > > > > > much. > > > > > > > > > > > Would it be possible to generate the tarballs every day instead of > > > > > > > > > > > every week ? At least for tier-1 arches. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let's revisit this sometime next week after 11.4 is out. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Glen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sure, works for me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ping ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I thought the artifacts from the jenkins builder for CI were sufficient. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Glen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes and no, > > > > > > > > > > > > I can add something to poudriere for getting the tarballs from the CI > > > > > > artifacts but that won't be by default. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To be honest, that would be the preferred route, since updating the > > > > > various *.txz distribution sets would break things like bootonly.iso, > > > > > mini-memstick.img, and so on. > > > > > > > > Why would it break things ? > > > > > > > > > > The bootonly.iso and mini-memstick.img do not contain the distribution > > > sets, only the MANIFEST file. So, people using these to install > > > a system would not be able to do so, because the checksums for the sets > > > would not match that in the MANIFEST. > > > > What about putting the daily sets in another directory ? With maybe > > the latest 7 days or something like that. > > > > But the CI system already does this... Perhaps enhance the CI system to also spit out a couple of .iso artifacts? > Glen -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@freebsd.org