From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 19:15:10 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5E701065673 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 19:15:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perlcat@alltel.net) Received: from ispmxmta05-srv.windstream.net (ispmxmta05-srv.windstream.net [166.102.165.166]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B9B28FC22 for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 19:15:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from perlcat@alltel.net) Received: from ispmxaamta04-gx.windstream.net ([67.206.61.15]) by ispmxmta05-srv.windstream.net with ESMTP id <20081202191509.IEPS4923.ispmxmta05-srv.windstream.net@ispmxaamta04-gx.windstream.net> for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:15:09 -0600 Received: from ext-b14-271.omhq.uprr.com ([67.206.61.15]) by ispmxaamta04-gx.windstream.net with ESMTP id <20081202191509.VAVE10030.ispmxaamta04-gx.windstream.net@ext-b14-271.omhq.uprr.com> for ; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:15:09 -0600 From: Tyson Boellstorff To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 13:14:59 -0600 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <20081121211828.GA9493@kokopelli.hydra> <49358640.3060600@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <49358640.3060600@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200812021314.59374.perlcat@alltel.net> X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=CTE117Eg/iuqh1XhPg9HnQ==:17 a=tWnqLU9Uxqm9q-yhfhYA:9 a=i0k1KJ19piANxR2RXOEA:7 a=sKhxfwQdAjqLObr_dx8zjs-PSO8A:4 a=MxZ3bB5I4kYA:10 Subject: Re: FreeBSD and hardware?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 19:15:11 -0000 > > Once you fix basic problems like these, then we can talk about how to > > redefine ease of use. > > > > Bob McConnell > > ease of use is always relative to the person using. > Ease of use is also relative to the training investment. In X, a moderate investment some 20-odd years ago still pays, even through the evolvement of interfaces like KDE, which follows the same general structure. With certain other commercial products, you get to learn it again, and again, and again. What I've had to re-learn to support Windows 1.1, 2.0. 3.0. 3.11, 95, NT, ME, 2000, XP, and Vista has changed dramtically over the years, and they're not done making it usable for the lowest common denominator yet, especially when you throw in de-enhancements like (un)FriendlyTree, a.k.a. "Where the @!$#@! are my files?!?!?!". This is why I can easily justify teaching my elders FreeBSD -- they unquestionably have more to learn, but they only learn it once, so the investment pays off.