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=0A=0A=0APlease remove my email from your database i don't want to receive = any other mail from you plzz thanks !=0A________________________________=0A= From: "freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org" <freebsd-questions-request@f= reebsd.org>=0ATo: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org =0ASent: Wednesday, June 6,= 2012 1:39 PM=0ASubject: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 418, Issue 7=0A =0AS= end freebsd-questions mailing list submissions to=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 free= bsd-questions@freebsd.org=0A=0ATo subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wi= de Web, visit=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinf= o/freebsd-questions=0Aor, via email, send a message with subject or body 'h= elp' to=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org=0A=0AYou= can reach the person managing the list at=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 freebsd-que= stions-owner@freebsd.org=0A=0AWhen replying, please edit your Subject line = so it is more specific=0Athan "Re: Contents of freebsd-questions digest..."= =0A=0A=0AToday's Topics:=0A=0A=C2=A0 1. Re: Is this something we (as consu= mers of FreeBSD) need to be=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 aware of? (Daniel Feenbe= rg)=0A=C2=A0 2. Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to= be=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 aware of?] (Jerry)=0A=C2=A0 3. Re: Is this some= thing we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 aware = of? (Jerry)=0A=C2=A0 4. implementing ipv6 into my ipfw ruleset... (Jason U= sher)=0A=C2=A0 5. Re: how do I=C2=A0 fix this? (Gary Kline)=0A=C2=A0 6. C= uriousity ? (Geir Svalland)=0A=C2=A0 7. Re: Is this something we (as consu= mers of FreeBSD) need to be=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 aware of? (Daniel Feenbe= rg)=0A=C2=A0 8. Re: /usr/bin/find - binary operands howto (grarpamp)=0A=C2= =A0 9. FreeBSD9 - I can't get my mouse to work (Walter Hurry)=0A=C2=A0 10.= Re: FreeBSD9 - I can't get my mouse to work (Bernt Hansson)=0A=C2=A0 11. R= e: FreeBSD9 - I can't get my mouse to work (Walter Hurry)=0A=C2=A0 12. Re: = FreeBSD9 - I can't get my mouse to work (Warren Block)=0A=C2=A0 13. Re: Is = this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 aware of? (Chris Hill)=0A=C2=A0 14. Re: Is this something we (as consum= ers of FreeBSD) need to be=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 aware of? (Mike Jeays)=0A= =C2=A0 15. Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be=0A= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 aware=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 of? (Waitman Gobble)=0A=C2=A0 = 16. Re: FreeBSD9 - I can't get my mouse to work (Walter Hurry)=0A=C2=A0 17.= Re: FreeBSD9 - I can't get my mouse to work (Scott Ballantyne)=0A=C2=A0 18= . Re: FreeBSD9 - I can't get my mouse to work (Erich)=0A=C2=A0 19. Re: Free= BSD9 - I can't get my mouse to work (Waitman Gobble)=0A=C2=A0 20. Re: FreeB= SD9 - I can't get my mouse to work (Erich Dollansky)=0A=C2=A0 21. Re: Is th= is something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0= aware of? (Matthew Seaman)=0A=C2=A0 22. Re: Is this something we (as consu= mers of FreeBSD) need to be=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 aware of? (Bruce Cran)= =0A=C2=A0 23. isc-dhcpd - logging client transactions (Ewald Jenisch)=0A=C2= =A0 24. Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be=0A=C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 aware of? (Matthew Seaman)=0A=C2=A0 25. Re: Is this somet= hing we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 aware= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 of? (Mehmet Erol Sanliturk)=0A=C2=A0 26. Re: Is this som= ething we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 aware= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 of?=C2=A0 (Julian H. Stacey)=0A=C2=A0 27. Re: Is this so= mething we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 awar= e of? (Jerry)=0A=C2=A0 28. Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBS= D) need to be=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 aware of? (Bruce Cran)=0A=0A=0A-------= ---------------------------------------------------------------=0A=0AMessag= e: 1=0ADate: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 17:00:14 -0400 (EDT)=0AFrom: Daniel Feenberg <= feenberg@nber.org>=0ASubject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of Fre= eBSD) need to be=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 aware of?=0ATo: Polytropon <freebsd@e= dvax.de>=0ACc: Kurt Buff <kurt.buff@gmail.com>, FreeBSD Questions=0A=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0 <questions@freebsd.org>=0AMessage-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.64.120605165= 3120.5642@nber6>=0AContent-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=3DUS-ASCII; format=3Df= lowed=0A=0A=0A=0AOn Tue, 5 Jun 2012, Polytropon wrote:=0A=0A> On Tue, 5 Jun= 2012 11:19:26 -0700, Kurt Buff wrote:=0A>> UEFI considerations drive Fedor= a to pay MSFT to sign their kernel binaries=0A>> http://cwonline.computerwo= rld.com/t/8035515/1292406/565573/0/=0A>=0A> I may reply with another link:= =0A> http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/12368.html=0A>=0A=0AI have a pretty basic = question that probably displays some ignorance...=0A=0ADoes the loader need= to be signed? Once signed, can it load anything, or =0Ajust things MS has = approved? If MS signs the kernel, can the kernel run =0Aanything, or just t= hings MS has approved? If RH has a signed kernel, do =0Athey have to sign a= ll the userland programs that run under that kernel? =0ACan users sign prog= rams compiled from source?=0A=0AIf MS only has to sign the first link in th= e chain, then the $99 =0Acertificate is not really a problem except for the= pure of heart. If MS or =0Asomeone else has to sign all the way down to th= e userland binaries, then =0Ausers of FreeBSD will have to turn off secure = boot in CMOS, and it will =0Alose a few users. But I can't tell from the di= scussions mentioned above. =0AEither way, I don't think it will destroy Fre= eBSD, or Linux, but I would =0Abe interested anyway.=0A=0ADaniel Feenberg= =0A=0A=0A------------------------------=0A=0AMessage: 2=0ADate: Tue, 5 Jun = 2012 17:20:46 -0400=0AFrom: Jerry <jerry@seibercom.net>=0ASubject: Re: Is t= his something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 = aware of?]=0ATo: FreeBSD <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>=0AMessage-ID: <201= 20605172046.2571e964@scorpio>=0AContent-Type: text/plain; charset=3DUTF-8= =0A=0AOn Tue, 5 Jun 2012 13:19:00 -0700=0AColin Barnabas articulated:=0A=0A= >History show us that _everything_ will eventually run *nix.=0A=0APerhaps, = but *nix will not run everything.=0A=0A>Take a look at the Sony PS3 debacle= . After Sony yanked support for=0A>installing other OS's, the community rip= ped apart their=0A>hypervisor in a matter of months. If these boot keys do = gain any=0A>momentum, sooner than later the community with poke holes in th= e=0A>system.=0A=0AWhich, depending on how the end user or his flunky "poke = holes" in the=0Asystem, may allow vendors to disallow warranty claims.=0A= =0AThe question that I have not seen answered in this thread is what=0AFree= BSD intents to do. From what I have seen, most FreeBSD users do not=0Ause t= he latest versions of most hardware, so it may be a while before=0Aits user= base is even effected.=0A=0A-- =0AJerry =E2=99=94=0A=0ADisclaimer: off-lis= t followups get on-list replies or get ignored.=0APlease do not ignore the = Reply-To header.=0A________________________________________________________= __________=0A=0A=0A=0A------------------------------=0A=0AMessage: 3=0ADate= : Tue, 5 Jun 2012 18:10:55 -0400=0AFrom: Jerry <jerry@seibercom.net>=0ASubj= ect: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be=0A=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0 aware of?=0ATo: FreeBSD <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>=0AMess= age-ID: <20120605181055.4af65fdb@scorpio>=0AContent-Type: text/plain; chars= et=3DUTF-8=0A=0AOn Tue, 5 Jun 2012 17:00:14 -0400 (EDT)=0ADaniel Feenberg a= rticulated:=0A=0A>On Tue, 5 Jun 2012, Polytropon wrote:=0A>=0A>> On Tue, 5 = Jun 2012 11:19:26 -0700, Kurt Buff wrote:=0A>>> UEFI considerations drive F= edora to pay MSFT to sign their kernel=0A>>> binaries=0A>>> http://cwonline= .computerworld.com/t/8035515/1292406/565573/0/=0A>>=0A>> I may reply with a= nother link:=0A>> http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/12368.html=0A>=0A>I have a pr= etty basic question that probably displays some ignorance...=0A>=0A>Does th= e loader need to be signed? Once signed, can it load anything,=0A>or just t= hings MS has approved? If MS signs the kernel, can the kernel=0A>run anythi= ng, or just things MS has approved? If RH has a signed=0A>kernel, do they h= ave to sign all the userland programs that run under=0A>that kernel? Can us= ers sign programs compiled from source?=0A>=0A>If MS only has to sign the f= irst link in the chain, then the $99 =0A>certificate is not really a proble= m except for the pure of heart. If=0A>MS or someone else has to sign all th= e way down to the userland=0A>binaries, then users of FreeBSD will have to = turn off secure boot in=0A>CMOS, and it will lose a few users. But I can't = tell from the=0A>discussions mentioned above. Either way, I don't think it = will destroy=0A>FreeBSD, or Linux, but I would be interested anyway.=0A=0AI= thought this URL <http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/12368.html>; also shown=0Aabo= ve, answered that question.=0A=0A-- =0AJerry =E2=99=94=0A=0ADisclaimer: off= -list followups get on-list replies or get ignored.=0APlease do not ignore = the Reply-To header.=0A____________________________________________________= ______________=0A=0A=0A------------------------------=0A=0AMessage: 4=0ADat= e: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 15:12:06 -0700 (PDT)=0AFrom: Jason Usher <jusher71@yahoo= .com>=0ASubject: implementing ipv6 into my ipfw ruleset...=0ATo: freebsd-qu= estions@freebsd.org=0AMessage-ID:=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <1338934326.88519.Ya= hooMailClassic@web122502.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>=0AContent-Type: text/plain; ch= arset=3Dus-ascii=0A=0AI have a fairly simple ipfw ruleset, which looks like= :=0A=0A=0A100 allow tcp from any to any established=0A110 allow icmp from a= ny to any icmptypes 0,3,8,11=0A120 deny icmp from any to any=0A130 allow ip= from any to any via lo0=0A=0A200 allow udp from me to any 53=0A210 allow u= dp from any 53 to me=0A220 allow udp from any to me 33433-33499=0A230 allow= tcp from any to 82.197.184.219 22,80,443 setup=0A=0A65000 deny log ip from= any to me=0A65001 deny log ip from any to me6=0A=0A=0AWhat I am wondering = is, am I blocking all ipv6 traffic by not explicitly allowing ipv6 in (for = the established rule 100, icmp rule 110, and the entire block of 200-230) ?= =0A=0AOr, since that is all tcp/udp/icmp, it doesn't matter, and I am prope= rly allowing in ipv6 traffic, but ONLY for the tcp/udp ports I specify, and= then blocking the rest ?=0A=0ABasically:=C2=A0 how is my ruleset treating = ipv6 traffic (other than the fact that, at the end of the set, I deny all i= pv6 that has gotten to that point)=0A=0Athank you.=0A=0A=0A----------------= --------------=0A=0AMessage: 5=0ADate: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 15:34:27 -0700=0AFro= m: Gary Kline <kline@thought.org>=0ASubject: Re: how do I=C2=A0 fix this?= =0ATo: Roland Smith <rsmith@xs4all.nl>=0ACc: FreeBSD <freebsd-questions@fre= ebsd.org>=0AMessage-ID: <20120605223427.GC23645@thought.org>=0AContent-Type= : text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii=0A=0AOn Tue, Jun 05, 2012 at 08:04:35AM +0= 200, Roland Smith wrote:=0A> Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 08:04:35 +0200=0A> From:= Roland Smith <rsmith@xs4all.nl>=0A> Subject: Re: how do I=C2=A0 fix this?= =0A> To: Gary Kline <kline@thought.org>=0A> Cc: FreeBSD <freebsd-questions@= freebsd.org>=0A> =0A> On Mon, Jun 04, 2012 at 09:53:11PM -0700, Gary Kline = wrote:=0A> > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 no joy.=C2=A0 I did another full upgrade.= =C2=A0 first time in many=0A> > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 months.=C2=A0 then spent= a couple hours with portmaster (thank=0A> > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 you, Roland= :).=C2=A0 this as a first upgrade.=C2=A0 =0A> =0A> Make sure you update por= tmaster first. The latest versions have significant=0A> improvements. Also = there has recently been a upgrade of libPNG, requiring a=0A> rebuild of eve= rything that needs it.=0A=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 pretty sure that I did exact= ly that.=0A=0A> =0A> > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 what I=C2=A0 want to do is get as= current as possible and then =0A> > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 install 7.5.=C2=A0 = and stay there.=0A> =0A> 7.5 what? Do you mean Xorg? Please try and be spec= ific.=0A=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 FreeBSD-7.5.=C2=A0 pretty sure I saw somethin= g about 7.4 being=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 upgraded to 7.5.=C2=A0 I've been at = FBSD-7.3 for a long ti me.=C2=A0 I=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 dont remember how m= any times I have upgraded this release,=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 but it has bee= n solid.=C2=A0 =0A> =0A> >=C2=A0 another question involves =0A> > =C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0 accepting the "3-D" windows with whatever options they might=0A> = > =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 present. =0A> =0A> You mean the options dialogs as run= by 'make config'? =0A=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 exactly.=C2=A0 =0A=0A=0A> Portm= aster will first=0A> recurse through the port and all of its dependencies (= if any) to handle any=0A> port OPTIONS via the 'make config' interface, bef= ore going off on the big=0A> build. =0A=0A=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 one thing i= ve been doing is de-selection most=C2=A0 of the=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 option= s..=C2=A0 the box is my server. we [freebsders] have lost=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0 the desktop 'market' ....=C2=A0 =0A> =0A> > is there any upgrade utilit= y or flag that will=0A> > accept and upgrade things without me having to be= here?=0A> =0A> Yes and no. With the latest portmaster you can use the -y f= lag to=0A> automatically answer "yes" to all questions. But some ports are = marked as=0A> "interactive", in the sense that they need you to give some i= nput. Or they are=0A> marked as "restricted" in that you might have to go a= nd download the tarball=0A> yourself somewhere. These are properties of the= ports system and the=0A> individual ports. No port build tool can override= that.=0A> =0A> BTW, use the -R flag with portmaster. If a long build fails= , it skips already=0A> updated stuff on the second try.=0A=0A=0A=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0 super; I'll add -yR to the argv list. tx again,=0A=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0 gary=0A=0A> =0A> Roland=0A> -- =0A> R.F.Smith=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 http://rsmith.home.xs4all.nl/=0A>; [plain text _non= -HTML_ PGP/GnuPG encrypted/signed email much appreciated]=0A> pgp: 1A2B 477= F 9970 BA3C 2914=C2=A0 B7CE 1277 EFB0 C321 A725 (KeyID: C321A725)=0A=0A=0A= =0A-- =0AGary Kline=C2=A0 kline@thought.org=C2=A0 http://www.thought.org=C2= =A0 Public Service Unix=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Voice By Computer (for Universal A= ccess): http:/www.thought.org/vbc=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 The = 8.57a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Twenty-five years of service to the Unix communit= y.=0A=0A=0A=0A------------------------------=0A=0AMessage: 6=0ADate: Wed, 6= Jun 2012 00:20:11 +0200=0AFrom: "Geir Svalland" <g.svalland@bredband.net>= =0ASubject: Curiousity ?=0ATo: <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>=0AMessage-ID= : <001d01cd4369$5ff8f270$1fead750$@svalland@bredband.net>=0AContent-Type: t= ext/plain;=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 charset=3D"us-ascii"=0A=0AHello friends=C2=A0 = ( old )=0A=0AI've moved over ( tried other, but not so further paths )=0A= =0ANo, not all , but my butter and bread :=C2=A0 my gateway=0A=0AAlso serve= rs as my mail and DNS among others=0A=0A>From FreeBSD=C2=A0 to=C2=A0 OpenBS= D=0A=0AFckg gays, you want so much, but do we want it ?=0A=0AAll this going= from bsd to clang and what ever ?=0A=0AGet a clear=C2=A0 step by step howt= o, and don't't fck belive all others are=0Awhizzards ?=0A=0AHasse Hansson= =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A------------------------------=0A=0AMessage: 7=0ADate: Tu= e, 5 Jun 2012 18:49:14 -0400 (EDT)=0AFrom: Daniel Feenberg <feenberg@nber.o= rg>=0ASubject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to b= e=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 aware of?=0ATo: FreeBSD <freebsd-questions@freebsd.o= rg>=0AMessage-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.64.1206051839020.19845@nber6>=0AContent-Type:= TEXT/PLAIN; charset=3DUS-ASCII; format=3Dflowed=0A=0A=0A=0AOn Tue, 5 Jun 2= 012, Jerry wrote:=0A=0A> On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 17:00:14 -0400 (EDT)=0A> Daniel= Feenberg articulated:=0A>=0A>> On Tue, 5 Jun 2012, Polytropon wrote:=0A>>= =0A>>> On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 11:19:26 -0700, Kurt Buff wrote:=0A>>>> UEFI cons= iderations drive Fedora to pay MSFT to sign their kernel=0A>>>> binaries=0A= >>>> http://cwonline.computerworld.com/t/8035515/1292406/565573/0/=0A>>>=0A= >>> I may reply with another link:=0A>>> http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/12368.= html=0A>>=0A>> I have a pretty basic question that probably displays some i= gnorance...=0A>>=0A>> Does the loader need to be signed? Once signed, can i= t load anything,=0A>> or just things MS has approved? If MS signs the kerne= l, can the kernel=0A>> run anything, or just things MS has approved? If RH = has a signed=0A>> kernel, do they have to sign all the userland programs th= at run under=0A>> that kernel? Can users sign programs compiled from source= ?=0A>>=0A>> If MS only has to sign the first link in the chain, then the $9= 9=0A>> certificate is not really a problem except for the pure of heart. If= =0A>> MS or someone else has to sign all the way down to the userland=0A>> = binaries, then users of FreeBSD will have to turn off secure boot in=0A>> C= MOS, and it will lose a few users. But I can't tell from the=0A>> discussio= ns mentioned above. Either way, I don't think it will destroy=0A>> FreeBSD,= or Linux, but I would be interested anyway.=0A>=0A> I thought this URL <ht= tp://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/12368.html> also shown=0A> above, answered that q= uestion.=0A=0AIt says "once paid you can sign as many binaries as you want"= but I don't =0Aknow if that means "as many different binaries" or "as many= copies of the =0Asame binary".=0A=0ALater it says they will write a new bo= otloader that MS will sign and=0A"adding support for verifying that the ker= nel it's about to boot is signed =0Awith a trusted key" but I don't know if= that kernel is signed by MS or RH, =0Aor if MS gets to approve it.=0A=0AFi= nally it says "we'll be sanitising the kernel command line to avoid =0Acert= ain bits of functionality that would permit an attacker to cause even =0Aa = signed kernel to launch arbitrary code" but does "arbitrary code" refer =0A= to something I would want to do as a sys-admin?=0A=0Adan feenberg=0A=0A=0A-= -----------------------------=0A=0AMessage: 8=0ADate: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 19:02= :18 -0400=0AFrom: grarpamp <grarpamp@gmail.com>=0ASubject: Re: /usr/bin/fin= d - binary operands howto=0ATo: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0AMessage-ID:= =0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <CAD2Ti2_H5D2keqj9UOF5GJrK2oukS7JPWspF3x8RMf8MJYbuhA@= mail.gmail.com>=0AContent-Type: text/plain; charset=3DUTF-8=0A=0AA single f= ind already had the needed selection and execution ops.=0ASo I was trying i= t first, before writing an external parser, etc.=0A=0AIt's still not clear = to me how find is compiling the arguments=0Ainternally, but using -vv on th= e utils helped a lot. After adding=0A-false after all the -exec's, it now w= orks as desired up against=0Amy array of inodes. I also worked in a pre-cha= nge, select, ls.=0A=0AThe arbitrary format of gfind is interesting. It can = maybe be=0Aapproximated in find with -exec ls someargs {} \+.=0A=0A=0A-----= -------------------------=0A=0AMessage: 9=0ADate: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 23:14:35 = +0000 (UTC)=0AFrom: Walter Hurry <walterhurry@gmail.com>=0ASubject: FreeBSD= 9 - I can't get my mouse to work=0ATo: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0AMess= age-ID: <jqm3sr$1l5$1@dough.gmane.org>=0AContent-Type: text/plain; charset= =3DUTF-8=0A=0AFirstly, sorry if this is a bit of a newbie question. I am qu= ite new to =0AFreeBSD (though fairly experienced at Linux). Almost everythi= ng in FreeBSD =0Ais fine, except that no matter what I try I cannot get the= (USB) mouse to =0Awork.=0A=0AI have scoured the handbook, and Googled, but= to no avail.=0A=0AThis is 9.0-RELEASE on amd64 - fully updated.=0A=0AI don= 't need the mouse in consoles, but I do want it in X.=0A=0AHere is my xorg.= conf in its entirety:=0A=0A##################################=0ASection "Se= rverLayout"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Identifier=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "XFree86 Configured"= =0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Screen=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0=C2=A0 "Screen0" 0 0=0A=C2=A0 = =C2=A0 InputDevice=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "Mouse0" "CorePointer"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Inpu= tDevice=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Option=C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "Clone" "off"=0AEndSection=0A=0ASection "ServerFl= ags"=0AOption=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "AutoAddDevices" "On"=0AEndSectio= n=0A=0ASection "Files"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 ModulePath=C2=A0 "/usr/local/lib/xo= rg/modules"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 FontPath=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "/usr/local/lib/X11/font= s/Liberation/"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 FontPath=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "/usr/local/lib/X11/f= onts/LinLibertineG/"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 FontPath=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "/usr/local/lib= /X11/fonts/OTF/"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 FontPath=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "/usr/local/lib/X11= /fonts/TTF/"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 FontPath=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "/usr/local/lib/X11/fon= ts/bitstream-vera/"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 FontPath=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "/usr/local/lib/= X11/fonts/dejavu/"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 FontPath=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "/usr/local/lib/X= 11/fonts/URW/"=0AEndSection=0A=0ASection "Module"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Load=C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "ddc"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Load=C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "dbe"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Load=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0= =C2=A0 "extmod"=0AEndSection=0A=0ASection "InputDevice"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 I= dentifier=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "Keyboard0"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Driver=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 "keyboard"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Option=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "= XkbModel" "pc105"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Option=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "XkbLa= yout" "gb"=0AEndSection=0A=0ASection "InputDevice"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Identifi= er=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "Mouse0"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Driver=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0= "mouse"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Option=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "Protocol" "au= to"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Option=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "Device" "/dev/sysmo= use"=0AEndSection=0A=0ASection "Monitor"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Identifier=C2=A0 = =C2=A0 "Monitor0"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 VendorName=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "Monitor Vendor= "=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 ModelName=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "Monitor Model"=0AEndSectio= n=0A=0A=0ASection "ServerLayout"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Identifier=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "= XFree86 Configured"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Screen=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0=C2=A0 "Scr= een0" 0 0=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 InputDevice=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "Mouse0" "CorePointer"= =0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 InputDevice=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"=0A=C2= =A0 =C2=A0 Option=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "Clone" "off"=0AEndSection=0A= =0ASection "ServerFlags"=0AOption=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "AutoAddDevic= es" "On"=0AEndSection=0A=0ASection "Files"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 ModulePath=C2=A0= "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 FontPath=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "/us= r/local/lib/X11/fonts/Liberation/"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 FontPath=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "= /usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/LinLibertineG/"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 FontPath=C2=A0 =C2= =A0 "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF/"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 FontPath=C2=A0 =C2=A0 = "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 FontPath=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "/u= sr/local/lib/X11/fonts/bitstream-vera/"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 FontPath=C2=A0 =C2= =A0 "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/dejavu/"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 FontPath=C2=A0 =C2= =A0 "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/URW/"=0AEndSection=0A=0ASection "Module"=0A= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Load=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "ddc"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0= Load=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "dbe"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Load=C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "extmod"=0AEndSection=0A=0ASection "InputDevic= e"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Identifier=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "Keyboard0"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Dri= ver=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "keyboard"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Option=C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "XkbModel" "pc105"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Option=C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "XkbLayout" "gb"=0AEndSection=0A=0ASection "InputDevice"=0A= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Identifier=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "Mouse0"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Driver=C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "mouse"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Option=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 "Protocol" "auto"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Option=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 "Device" "/dev/sysmouse"=0AEndSection=0A=0ASection "Monitor"=0A=C2= =A0 =C2=A0 Identifier=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "Monitor0"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 VendorName= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "Monitor Vendor"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 ModelName=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 "Monitor Model"=0AEndSection=0A=0A=0ASection "Device"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 I= dentifier=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "Card0"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Screen=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Driver=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "radeonh= d"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 VendorName=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "Radeon Video Driver"=0A=C2=A0 = =C2=A0 Option=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "XAANoOffscreenPixmaps" "true"=0A= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Option=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "AccelMethod" "EXA"=0A=C2= =A0 =C2=A0 Option=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "DRI" "true"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 = BusID=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "PCI:1:5:0"=0AEndSection=0A=0A=0ASe= ction "Screen"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Identifier=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "Screen0"=0A=C2=A0 = =C2=A0 Device=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "Card0"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Monitor= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "Monitor0"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 DefaultDepth=C2=A0 = 24=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 SubSection=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "Display"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 Depth=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 24 =0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Mode= s=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "1366x768"=0A=C2=A0 =C2=A0 EndSubSection=0AEndSection= =0A##################################=0A=0Aand here are the relevant Xorg.0= .log messages:=0A=0A##################################=0A(EE) config/hal: c= ouldn't initialise context: unknown error (null)=0A(EE) xf86OpenSerial: Can= not open device /dev/psm0=0A(EE) PS/2 Mouse: cannot open input device=0A(EE= ) PreInit returned NULL for "PS/2 Mouse"=0A(EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceR= equest failed (8)=0A((WW) AllowEmptyInput is on, devices using drivers 'kbd= ', 'mouse' or =0A'vmmouse' will be disabled.=0A(WW) Disabling Mouse0=0A(WW)= Disabling Keyboard0=0A(WW) Usb Mouse: No Device specified, looking for one= ...=0A(WW) PS/2 Mouse: No Device specified, looking for one...=0A(WW) Usb M= ouse: No Device specified, looking for one...=0A(WW) Usb Mouse: No Device s= pecified, looking for one...=0A(WW) Usb Mouse: No Device specified, looking= for one...=0A(WW) Usb Mouse: No Device specified, looking for one...=0A(WW= ) Usb Mouse: No Device specified, looking for one...=0A(WW) Usb Mouse: No D= evice specified, looking for one...=0A(WW) Usb Mouse: No Device specified, = looking for one...=0A##################################=0A=0ACan anyone ass= ist with this?=0A=0A=0A=0A------------------------------=0A=0AMessage: 10= =0ADate: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 01:22:51 +0200=0AFrom: Bernt Hansson <bah@bananmo= narki.se>=0ASubject: Re: FreeBSD9 - I can't get my mouse to work=0ATo: Walt= er Hurry <walterhurry@gmail.com>=0ACc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0AMess= age-ID: <4FCE94CB.4060309@bananmonarki.se>=0AContent-Type: text/plain; char= set=3DISO-8859-1; format=3Dflowed=0A=0A2012-06-06 01:14, Walter Hurry skrev= :=0A> Firstly, sorry if this is a bit of a newbie question. I am quite new = to=0A> FreeBSD (though fairly experienced at Linux). Almost everything in F= reeBSD=0A> is fine, except that no matter what I try I cannot get the (USB)= mouse to=0A> work.=0A>=0A> I have scoured the handbook, and Googled, but t= o no avail.=0A>=0A> This is 9.0-RELEASE on amd64 - fully updated.=0A>=0A> I= don't need the mouse in consoles, but I do want it in X.=0A>=0A> Here is m= y xorg.conf in its entirety:=0A>=0A> ##################################=0A>= Section "ServerLayout"=0A>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Identifier=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "X= Free86 Configured"=0A>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Screen=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0=C2= =A0 "Screen0" 0 0=0A>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 InputDevice=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "Mouse0"= "CorePointer"=0A>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 InputDevice=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "Keyboard0"= "CoreKeyboard"=0A>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Option=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = "Clone" "off"=0A> EndSection=0A>=0A> Section "ServerFlags"=0A> Option=C2=A0= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "AutoAddDevices" "On"=0A=0ASet this to off.=0A=0A> E= ndSection=0A>=0A> Section "Files"=0A>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ModulePath=C2=A0 = "/usr/local/lib/xorg/modules"=0A>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 FontPath=C2=A0 =C2= =A0 "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/Liberation/"=0A>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 FontPat= h=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/LinLibertineG/"=0A>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 FontPath=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/OTF/"=0A>=C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 FontPath=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/"=0A>=C2=A0= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 FontPath=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "/usr/local/lib/X11/fonts/bitstream-v= era/"=0A>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 FontPath=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "/usr/local/lib/X11/fo= nts/dejavu/"=0A>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 FontPath=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "/usr/local/lib= /X11/fonts/URW/"=0A> EndSection=0A>=0A> Section "Module"=0A>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 Load=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "ddc"=0A>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 Load=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "dbe"=0A>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 L= oad=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "extmod"=0A> EndSection=0A>=0A> Sect= ion "InputDevice"=0A>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Identifier=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "Keyboar= d0"=0A>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Driver=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "keyboard"= =0A>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Option=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "XkbModel" "pc1= 05"=0A>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Option=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "XkbLayout" = "gb"=0A> EndSection=0A>=0A> Section "InputDevice"=0A>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 I= dentifier=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "Mouse0"=0A>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Driver=C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "mouse"=0A>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Option=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 "Protocol" "auto"=0A>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Option=C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "Device" "/dev/sysmouse"=0A> EndSection=0A>=0A> Section "Mon= itor"=0A>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Identifier=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "Monitor0"=0A>=C2=A0= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 VendorName=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "Monitor Vendor"=0A>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 ModelName=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "Monitor Model"=0A> EndSection=0A>=0A>= =0A> Section "ServerLayout"=0A>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Identifier=C2=A0 =C2=A0= "XFree86 Configured"=0A>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Screen=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0= =C2=A0 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Device=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 "Card0"=0A>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Monitor=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "Mo= nitor0"=0A>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 DefaultDepth=C2=A0 24=0A>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 SubSection=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "Display"=0A>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 Depth=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 24=0A>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Mode= s=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "1366x768"=0A>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 EndSubSection=0A> = EndSection=0A> ##################################=0A>=0A> and here are the = relevant Xorg.0.log messages:=0A>=0A> ##################################=0A= > (EE) config/hal: couldn't initialise context: unknown error (null)=0A> (E= E) xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/psm0=0A> (EE) PS/2 Mouse: cannot= open input device=0A> (EE) PreInit returned NULL for "PS/2 Mouse"=0A> (EE)= config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (8)=0A> ((WW) AllowEmptyInput is = on, devices using drivers 'kbd', 'mouse' or=0A> 'vmmouse' will be disabled.= =0A> (WW) Disabling Mouse0=0A> (WW) Disabling Keyboard0=0A> (WW) Usb Mouse:= No Device specified, looking for one...=0A> (WW) PS/2 Mouse: No Device spe= cified, looking for one...=0A> (WW) Usb Mouse: No Device specified, looking= for one...=0A> (WW) Usb Mouse: No Device specified, looking for one...=0A>= (WW) Usb Mouse: No Device specified, looking for one...=0A> (WW) Usb Mouse= : No Device specified, looking for one...=0A> (WW) Usb Mouse: No Device spe= cified, looking for one...=0A> (WW) Usb Mouse: No Device specified, looking= for one...=0A> (WW) Usb Mouse: No Device specified, looking for one...=0A>= ##################################=0A>=0A> Can anyone assist with this?=0A= >=0A> _______________________________________________=0A> freebsd-questions= @freebsd.org mailing list=0A> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/fre= ebsd-questions=0A> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsu= bscribe@freebsd.org"=0A>=0A>=0A=0A=0A------------------------------=0A=0AMe= ssage: 11=0ADate: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 23:26:24 +0000 (UTC)=0AFrom: Walter Hurry= <walterhurry@gmail.com>=0ASubject: Re: FreeBSD9 - I can't get my mouse to = work=0ATo: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0AMessage-ID: <jqm4j0$hce$1@dough.= gmane.org>=0AContent-Type: text/plain; charset=3DUTF-8=0A=0AOn Tue, 05 Jun = 2012 23:14:35 +0000, Walter Hurry wrote:=0A=0A> Firstly, sorry if this is a= bit of a newbie question. I am quite new to=0A> FreeBSD (though fairly exp= erienced at Linux). Almost everything in=0A> FreeBSD is fine, except that n= o matter what I try I cannot get the (USB)=0A> mouse to work.=0A> =0A> Can = anyone assist with this?=0A> =0A=0AOne bit of information which might be re= levant:=0A=0AThis is a laptop with a built-in touchpad. The touchpad works,= even =0Athough I have made no configuration changes for it. Unfortunately,= as I =0Asaid, the mouse doesn't.=0A=0A=0A=0A------------------------------= =0A=0AMessage: 12=0ADate: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 17:40:06 -0600 (MDT)=0AFrom: Warr= en Block <wblock@wonkity.com>=0ASubject: Re: FreeBSD9 - I can't get my mous= e to work=0ATo: Walter Hurry <walterhurry@gmail.com>=0ACc: freebsd-question= s@freebsd.org=0AMessage-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.00.1206051734550.7974@wonkity.com= >=0AContent-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; format=3Dflowed; charset=3DUS-ASCII=0A=0AOn T= ue, 5 Jun 2012, Walter Hurry wrote:=0A=0A> Firstly, sorry if this is a bit = of a newbie question. I am quite new to=0A> FreeBSD (though fairly experien= ced at Linux). Almost everything in FreeBSD=0A> is fine, except that no mat= ter what I try I cannot get the (USB) mouse to=0A> work.=0A>=0A> I have sco= ured the handbook, and Googled, but to no avail.=0A>=0A> This is 9.0-RELEAS= E on amd64 - fully updated.=0A>=0A> I don't need the mouse in consoles, but= I do want it in X.=0A>=0A> Here is my xorg.conf in its entirety:=0A=0ATher= e are duplicated sections in the output provided.=0A=0A> ##################= ################=0A> Section "ServerLayout"=0A>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Identifier=C2= =A0 =C2=A0 "XFree86 Configured"=0A>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Screen=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 0=C2=A0 "Screen0" 0 0=0A>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 InputDevice=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "Mouse0= " "CorePointer"=0A>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 InputDevice=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "Keyboard0" "Core= Keyboard"=0A>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Option=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "Clone" "off"= =0A> EndSection=0A>=0A> Section "ServerFlags"=0A> Option=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 "AutoAddDevices" "On"=0A> EndSection=0A=0ASetting AutoAddDevice= s on means to use HAL for mouse detection.=C2=A0 Is HAL =0Arunning?=0A=0AOn= one notebook, I had to set moused_enable=3D"YES" in /etc/rc.conf before = =0Aboth the touchpad and an external mouse would work.=0A=0A=0A------------= ------------------=0A=0AMessage: 13=0ADate: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 19:57:30 -0400 = (EDT)=0AFrom: Chris Hill <chris@monochrome.org>=0ASubject: Re: Is this some= thing we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 aware of= ?=0ATo: G?k?in Akdeniz <goksin.akdeniz@gmail.com>=0ACc: Bruce Cran <bruce@c= ran.org.uk>, Kurt Buff <kurt.buff@gmail.com>,=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 FreeBSD = Questions <questions@freebsd.org>=0AMessage-ID:=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <alpin= e.BSF.2.00.1206051952510.59814@tripel.monochrome.org>=0AContent-Type: TEXT/= PLAIN; charset=3DUS-ASCII; format=3Dflowed=0A=0AOn Tue, 5 Jun 2012, G?k?in = Akdeniz wrote:=0A=0A> For the time being only ARM platform is restricted.= =0A=0ATrue, but I would be astonished if this restriction were not expanded= by =0AMS in the future. Just my opinion, but I believe their ultimate goal= is =0Ato add platforms until the "secure boot" restriction encompasses mos= t or =0Aall desktop and server hardware. This would be over a period of yea= rs.=0A=0A-- =0AChris Hill=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 c= hris@monochrome.org=0A**=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 [ Busy Expunging </> ]=0A=0A=0A----------------------= --------=0A=0AMessage: 14=0ADate: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 21:33:58 -0400=0AFrom: Mi= ke Jeays <mike.jeays@rogers.com>=0ASubject: Re: Is this something we (as co= nsumers of FreeBSD) need to be=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 aware of?=0ATo: freebsd= -questions@freebsd.org=0AMessage-ID: <20120605213358.5047d683@europa>=0ACon= tent-Type: text/plain; charset=3DUS-ASCII=0A=0AOn Tue, 5 Jun 2012 19:57:30 = -0400 (EDT)=0AChris Hill <chris@monochrome.org> wrote:=0A=0A> On Tue, 5 Jun= 2012, G?k?in Akdeniz wrote:=0A> =0A> > For the time being only ARM platfor= m is restricted.=0A> =0A> True, but I would be astonished if this restricti= on were not expanded by =0A> MS in the future. Just my opinion, but I belie= ve their ultimate goal is =0A> to add platforms until the "secure boot" res= triction encompasses most or =0A> all desktop and server hardware. This wou= ld be over a period of years.=0A> =0A> -- =0A> Chris Hill=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 chris@monochrome.org=0A> **=C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 [ Busy Expunging <= /> ]=0A> _______________________________________________=0A> freebsd-questi= ons@freebsd.org mailing list=0A> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/= freebsd-questions=0A> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-u= nsubscribe@freebsd.org"=0A=0AThis seems all too likely to me. I expect it w= ill become very hard to find a consumer laptop that will run other operatin= g systems in a few years. There won't be any in Best Buy or Staples, one ca= n be pretty sure. It will be a Windows or Mac world. Not an attractive futu= re.=0A=0A=0A------------------------------=0A=0AMessage: 15=0ADate: Tue, 5 = Jun 2012 18:56:36 -0700=0AFrom: Waitman Gobble <gobble.wa@gmail.com>=0ASubj= ect: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be=0A=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0 aware=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 of?=0ATo: Mike Jeays <mike.jeays@roger= s.com>=0ACc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0AMessage-ID:=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0 <CAFuo_fwtui8D0U3bAAeh1xyfVk9YFJ4g5=3Dy2JC-h=3D=3DpeH2FDtw@mail.gmail.c= om>=0AContent-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1=0A=0AOn Jun 5, 2012 6:= 35 PM, "Mike Jeays" <mike.jeays@rogers.com> wrote:=0A>=0A> On Tue, 5 Jun 20= 12 19:57:30 -0400 (EDT)=0A> Chris Hill <chris@monochrome.org> wrote:=0A>=0A= > > On Tue, 5 Jun 2012, G?k?in Akdeniz wrote:=0A> >=0A> > > For the time be= ing only ARM platform is restricted.=0A> >=0A> > True, but I would be aston= ished if this restriction were not expanded by=0A> > MS in the future. Just= my opinion, but I believe their ultimate goal is=0A> > to add platforms un= til the "secure boot" restriction encompasses most or=0A> > all desktop and= server hardware. This would be over a period of years.=0A> >=0A> > --=0A> = > Chris Hill=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 chris@monochro= me.org=0A> > **=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 [ Busy Expunging </> ]=0A> > __________________________________= _____________=0A> > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list=0A> > http:/= /lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions=0A> > To unsubscribe,= send any mail to "=0Afreebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"=0A>=0A> Th= is seems all too likely to me. I expect it will become very hard to=0Afind = a consumer laptop that will run other operating systems in a few=0Ayears. T= here won't be any in Best Buy or Staples, one can be pretty sure.=0AIt will= be a Windows or Mac world. Not an attractive future.=0A> _________________= ______________________________=0A> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing li= st=0A> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions=0A>; To u= nsubscribe, send any mail to "=0Afreebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"= =0A=0AI understand there are only a few (like two) monster-sized computer= =0Amanufacturers, which are based in China, who manufacture the massive bul= k=0Aof "consumer" laptops. the name brand models in the local retail store = are=0Aalmost always these ODM computers with a preloaded hard drive and a f= ancy=0Alabel w/ insignia slapped on the shell. One may purchase a "Generic"= laptop=0Ato spec (without any MS stuff installed, if you so desire), for a= =0Asingle-unit competitive price.=0A=0Afor example search "compal" ...=0A= =0Ai'm curious how the restricted boot scheme will come into play in these = "no=0Aflashy labels" portable machines.=0A=0AWaitman Gobble=0ASan Jose Cali= fornia USA=0A=0A=0A------------------------------=0A=0AMessage: 16=0ADate: = Wed, 6 Jun 2012 02:21:53 +0000 (UTC)=0AFrom: Walter Hurry <walterhurry@gmai= l.com>=0ASubject: Re: FreeBSD9 - I can't get my mouse to work=0ATo: freebsd= -questions@freebsd.org=0AMessage-ID: <jqmes1$dcf$1@dough.gmane.org>=0AConte= nt-Type: text/plain; charset=3DUTF-8=0A=0AOn Wed, 06 Jun 2012 01:22:51 +020= 0, Bernt Hansson wrote:=0A>> Option=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "AutoAddDev= ices" "On"=0A> =0A> Set this to off.=0A> =0AThanks for the reply. Yes, I've= tried setting it to "Off", but there is =0Ano apparent difference; only a = new set of messages in Xorg.0.log:=0A=0A(EE) config/hal: couldn't initialis= e context: unknown error (null)=0A(EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest fa= iled (8)=0A(EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (8)=0A(EE) config/= hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (8)=0A(EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequ= est failed (8)=0A(EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (8)=0A(EE) c= onfig/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (8)=0A(WW) Mouse0: No Device specif= ied, looking for one...=0A=0A=0A=0A------------------------------=0A=0AMess= age: 17=0ADate: 6 Jun 2012 02:05:14 -0000=0AFrom: Scott Ballantyne <sdb@ssr= .com>=0ASubject: Re: FreeBSD9 - I can't get my mouse to work=0ATo: Walter H= urry <walterhurry@gmail.com>=0ACc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0AMessage-= ID: <20120606020514.8485.qmail@irelay.ssr.com>=0A=0AWalter Hurry <walterhur= ry@gmail.com> writes:=0A=0A> =0A> Firstly, sorry if this is a bit of a newb= ie question. I am quite new to =0A> FreeBSD (though fairly experienced at L= inux). Almost everything in FreeBSD =0A> is fine, except that no matter wha= t I try I cannot get the (USB) mouse to =0A> work.=0A> =0A> I have scoured = the handbook, and Googled, but to no avail.=0A> =0A> This is 9.0-RELEASE on= amd64 - fully updated.=0A> =0A> I don't need the mouse in consoles, but I = do want it in X.=0A> =0A=0AThe clue here is 'fully updated'. The latest hal= d has a bug that keeps=0Athe mouse from working. If you look in your X.org.= 0.log you may find=0Aa section which says that /dev/ums, configured by hal,= is busy, and=0Aunloads the mouse. If you don't find that, then ignore the = rest of=0Athis email :)=0A=0AThere are various "solutions" to this, one is = to disable the auto=0Aconfigure, and add the configuration for both keyboar= d and mouse to=0Athe .conf file.=C2=A0 Another is to restart dbus and hald.= You can switch=0Ato a console window from X and run this command:=0A=0A/us= r/local/etc/rc.d/dbus restart && /usr/local/etc/rc.d/hald restart=0A=0AIf t= hat fixes it, then you can automate it by putting something like=0Athis in = /usr/local/etc/rc.d , call it haldfixbug or something like=0Athat:=0A=0A---= -------=0A#!/bin/sh=0A#=0A# PROVIDE: HALD_FIX_BUG=0A# REQUIRE: hald dbus=0A= #=0A=0A[ "$1" =3D start ] && /usr/local/etc/rc.d/dbus restart && /usr/local= /etc/rc.d/hald restart && echo "DBUS HALD BUG FIX ATTEMPTED"=0A[ "$1" =3D f= aststart ] && /usr/local/etc/rc.d/dbus restart && /usr/local/etc/rc.d/hald = restart && echo "DBUS HALD BUG FIX ATTEMPTED"=0Asleep 5=0Aexit 0=0A--------= -----=0A=0AThis might not work if you use startx, but should be ok with xdm= or=0Agdm. It works for me, maybe not for you.=0A=0ABest,=0AScott=0A-- =0As= db@ssr.com=0A=0A=0A------------------------------=0A=0AMessage: 18=0ADate: = Wed, 06 Jun 2012 09:55:08 +0700=0AFrom: Erich <erichfreebsdlist@ovitrap.com= >=0ASubject: Re: FreeBSD9 - I can't get my mouse to work=0ATo: freebsd-ques= tions@freebsd.org=0ACc: Walter Hurry <walterhurry@gmail.com>=0AMessage-ID: = <1923831.l0mLy8oBIz@x220.ovitrap.com>=0AContent-Type: text/plain; charset= =3D"us-ascii"=0A=0AHi=0A=0AI have had success on my hardware with this sett= ing:=0A=0A#=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 The working co= nfiguration. The mouse daemon in /etc/rc.conf=0A#=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 was dsabled.=0A#=0A#=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Section "ServerLayout"=0A#=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Identifier=C2=A0 =C2=A0 = "X.org Configured"=0A#=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Screen=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 0=C2=A0 "Screen0" 0 0= =0A#=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 InputDevice=C2=A0 =C2=A0 "Mouse0" "CorePointer"=0A#=C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 InputDevice= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"=0A#=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 EndSection=0A#=0A#=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 Section "ServerFlags"=0A#=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Option=C2=A0 "AllowEmptyInput"=C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "false"=0A#=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Option=C2=A0 "AutoAddDevices"=C2=A0 =C2=A0= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "false"=0A#=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = EndSection=0A=0ATurning off the mouse daemon was the key on that hardware.= =0A=0AThe same xorg settings needed the mouse daemon turned on on other har= dware.=0A=0AGood luck!=0A=0AErich=0A=0AOn 06 June 2012 2:21:53 Walter Hurry= wrote:=0A> On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 01:22:51 +0200, Bernt Hansson wrote:=0A> >>= Option=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 "AutoAddDevices" "On"=0A> > =0A> > Set = this to off.=0A> > =0A> Thanks for the reply. Yes, I've tried setting it to= "Off", but there is =0A> no apparent difference; only a new set of message= s in Xorg.0.log:=0A> =0A> (EE) config/hal: couldn't initialise context: unk= nown error (null)=0A> (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (8)=0A>= (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (8)=0A> (EE) config/hal: New= InputDeviceRequest failed (8)=0A> (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest fa= iled (8)=0A> (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (8)=0A> (EE) con= fig/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (8)=0A> (WW) Mouse0: No Device specif= ied, looking for one...=0A> =0A> __________________________________________= _____=0A> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list=0A> http://lists.freeb= sd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions=0A> To unsubscribe, send any mail= to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"=0A> =0A> =0A=0A=0A---------= ---------------------=0A=0AMessage: 19=0ADate: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 19:59:48 -07= 00=0AFrom: Waitman Gobble <gobble.wa@gmail.com>=0ASubject: Re: FreeBSD9 - I= can't get my mouse to work=0ATo: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0AMessage-I= D:=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <CAFuo_fwiz25Fgv8P4Z+3nemX+wiTvt1ZO=3D+PkR-4cU_+ts4= Fkg@mail.gmail.com>=0AContent-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1=0A=0AO= n Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 7:05 PM, Scott Ballantyne <sdb@ssr.com> wrote:=0A=0A>= =C2=A0 Walter Hurry <walterhurry@gmail.com> writes:=0A>=0A> >=0A> > Firstly= , sorry if this is a bit of a newbie question. I am quite new to=0A> > Free= BSD (though fairly experienced at Linux). Almost everything in=0A> FreeBSD= =0A> > is fine, except that no matter what I try I cannot get the (USB) mou= se to=0A> > work.=0A> >=0A> > I have scoured the handbook, and Googled, but= to no avail.=0A> >=0A> > This is 9.0-RELEASE on amd64 - fully updated.=0A>= >=0A> > I don't need the mouse in consoles, but I do want it in X.=0A> >= =0A>=0A> The clue here is 'fully updated'. The latest hald has a bug that k= eeps=0A> the mouse from working. If you look in your X.org.0.log you may fi= nd=0A> a section which says that /dev/ums, configured by hal, is busy, and= =0A> unloads the mouse. If you don't find that, then ignore the rest of=0A>= this email :)=0A>=0A> There are various "solutions" to this, one is to dis= able the auto=0A> configure, and add the configuration for both keyboard an= d mouse to=0A> the .conf file.=C2=A0 Another is to restart dbus and hald. Y= ou can switch=0A> to a console window from X and run this command:=0A>=0A> = /usr/local/etc/rc.d/dbus restart && /usr/local/etc/rc.d/hald restart=0A>=0A= > If that fixes it, then you can automate it by putting something like=0A> = this in /usr/local/etc/rc.d , call it haldfixbug or something like=0A> that= :=0A>=0A> ----------=0A> #!/bin/sh=0A> #=0A> # PROVIDE: HALD_FIX_BUG=0A> # = REQUIRE: hald dbus=0A> #=0A>=0A> [ "$1" =3D start ] && /usr/local/etc/rc.d/= dbus restart &&=0A> /usr/local/etc/rc.d/hald restart && echo "DBUS HALD BUG= FIX ATTEMPTED"=0A> [ "$1" =3D faststart ] && /usr/local/etc/rc.d/dbus rest= art &&=0A> /usr/local/etc/rc.d/hald restart && echo "DBUS HALD BUG FIX ATTE= MPTED"=0A> sleep 5=0A> exit 0=0A> -------------=0A>=0A> This might not work= if you use startx, but should be ok with xdm or=0A> gdm. It works for me, = maybe not for you.=0A>=0A> Best,=0A> Scott=0A> --=0A> sdb@ssr.com=0A> _____= __________________________________________=0A> freebsd-questions@freebsd.or= g mailing list=0A> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questi= ons=0A> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "=0A> freebsd-questions-unsubscrib= e@freebsd.org"=0A>=0A=0Ai'll give that a try. After updating a couple of da= ys ago the mouse is=0Aglued to the center of the screen after starting X. I= noticed if i first=0Akill moused before startx it works fine. (moused appa= rently restarts). But=0Amaybe this solution will end the work-around.=0A=0A= Waitman Gobble=0ASan Jose California USA=0A=0A=0A--------------------------= ----=0A=0AMessage: 20=0ADate: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 10:35:14 +0700=0AFrom: Erich= Dollansky <erich@alogreentechnologies.com>=0ASubject: Re: FreeBSD9 - I can= 't get my mouse to work=0ATo: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org=0ACc: Waitman G= obble <gobble.wa@gmail.com>=0AMessage-ID: <1529132.jI8PiRModA@x220.ovitrap.= com>=0AContent-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii"=0A=0AHi,=0A=0AOn 05 J= une 2012 19:59:48 Waitman Gobble wrote:=0A> On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 7:05 PM,= Scott Ballantyne <sdb@ssr.com> wrote:=0A> =0A=0A> i'll give that a try. Af= ter updating a couple of days ago the mouse is=0A> glued to the center of t= he screen after starting X. I noticed if i first=0A> kill moused before sta= rtx it works fine. (moused apparently restarts). But=0A> maybe this solutio= n will end the work-around.=0A> =0AI came to this the same way. X stopped w= orking with the mouse after an upgrade many, many years ago.=0A=0AIf it hap= pens again, I play with the parameters in there.=0A=0AI have read that othe= r people also played with HAL but I never needed so.=0A=0AErich=0A=0A=0A---= ---------------------------=0A=0AMessage: 21=0ADate: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 08:32= :02 +0100=0AFrom: Matthew Seaman <matthew@FreeBSD.org>=0ASubject: Re: Is th= is something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 a= ware of?=0ATo: FreeBSD <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org>=0ACc: Jerry <jerry@s= eibercom.net>=0AMessage-ID: <4FCF0772.8000609@FreeBSD.org>=0AContent-Type: = text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"=0A=0AOn 05/06/2012 23:10, Jerry wrote:=0A> I = thought this URL <http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/12368.html>; also shown=0A> ab= ove, answered that question.=0A=0ASigning bootloaders and kernels etc. seem= s superficially like a good=0Aidea to me.=C2=A0 However, instant reaction i= s that this is definitely *not*=0Asomething that Microsoft should be in cha= rge of.=C2=A0 Some neutral[*] body=0Awithout any commercial interests shoul= d do that job, and=0Abootloader/kernel signing should be freely available.= =0A=0AOn deeper thought though, the whole idea appears completely unworkabl= e.=0AIt means that you will not be able to compile your own kernel or=0Adri= vers unless you have access to a signing key.=C2=A0 As building your own=0A= is pretty fundamental to the FreeBSD project, the logical consequence is=0A= that FreeBSD source should come with a signing key for anyone to use.=0A=0A= Which completely abrogates the whole point of signing=0Abootloaders/kernels= in the first place: anyone wishing to create malware=0Awould be able to si= gn whatever they want using such a key.=C2=A0 It's=0ADRM-level stupidity al= l over again.=0A=0AMy conclusion: boycott products, manufacturers and/or OS= es that=0Aparticipate in this scheme.=C2=A0 FreeBSD alone won't make any re= al=0Adifference to manufacturers, but I hope there is still enough of the= =0Aoriginal spirit of freedom within the Linux camp, and perhaps from=0AGoo= gle/android to make an impact.=0A=0AI'm pretty sure there can be a way of w= hitelisting bootloaders and so=0Aforth to help prevent low-level malware, b= ut this isn't it.=0A=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Cheers,=0A=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 M= atthew=0A=0A[*] I suggest ICANN might be the right sort of organization to = fulfil=0Athis role.=0A=0A-- =0ADr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil.=0APGP: http:= //www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey=0A=0A=0A-------------- next part ------= --------=0AA non-text attachment was scrubbed...=0AName: signature.asc=0ATy= pe: application/pgp-signature=0ASize: 267 bytes=0ADesc: OpenPGP digital sig= nature=0AUrl : http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/attachm= ents/20120606/9d4665e5/signature-0001.pgp=0A=0A----------------------------= --=0A=0AMessage: 22=0ADate: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 09:45:05 +0100=0AFrom: Bruce C= ran <bruce@cran.org.uk>=0ASubject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers o= f FreeBSD) need to be=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 aware of?=0ATo: Matthew Seaman <= matthew@FreeBSD.org>=0ACc: Jerry <jerry@seibercom.net>, FreeBSD=0A=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0 <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org>=0AMessage-ID: <4FCF1891.9020006@c= ran.org.uk>=0AContent-Type: text/plain; charset=3DUTF-8; format=3Dflowed=0A= =0AOn 06/06/2012 08:32, Matthew Seaman wrote:=0A> On deeper thought though,= the whole idea appears completely unworkable.=0A>=C2=A0 It means that you= will not be able to compile your own kernel or=0A> drivers unless you have= access to a signing key.=C2=A0 As building your own=0A> is pretty fundamen= tal to the FreeBSD project, the logical consequence is=0A> that FreeBSD sou= rce should come with a signing key for anyone to use.=0A=0AIt just means th= at anyone wishing to run their own kernels would either =0Aneed to disable = secure boot, or purchase/create their own certificate =0Aand install it.=0A= =0A-- =0ABruce Cran=0A=0A=0A------------------------------=0A=0AMessage: 23= =0ADate: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 11:02:33 +0200=0AFrom: Ewald Jenisch <a@jenisch.at= >=0ASubject: isc-dhcpd - logging client transactions=0ATo: <freebsd-questio= ns@freebsd.org>=0AMessage-ID: <20120606090233.GA3748@aurora.oekb.co.at>=0AC= ontent-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii"=0A=0AHi,=0A=0AI've set up isc= -dhcpd (/usr/ports/net/isc-dhcp42-server). The daemon=0Aruns, hands out IP-= addresses however logging doesn't seem to work.=0A=0AHere's what I've got i= n the respective config-files:=0A=0A/etc/rc.conf:=0A# dhcpd=0Adhcpd_enable= =3D"YES"=0Adhcpd_conf=3D"/usr/local/etc/dhcpd.conf"=0Adhcpd_ifaces=3D"em0"= =0Adhcpd_withumask=3D"022"=0Adhcpd_chuser_enable=3D"YES"=0Adhcpd_withuser= =3D"dhcpd"=0Adhcpd_withgroup=3D"dhcpd"=0Adhcpd_chroot_enable=3D"YES"=0Adhcp= d_devfs_enable=3D"YES"=0Adhcpd_rootdir=3D"/var/db/dhcpd"=0A=0A/usr/local/et= c/dhcpd.conf:=0A...=0Alog-facility local7;=0A=0A/etc/syslog.conf:=0Alocal7.= *=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 /var/log/dhcpd.log= =0A=0A=0A/var/log/dhcpd.log is "touch"ed, so it exists.=0A=0AAlso restarted= syslogd and isc-dhcpd.=0A=0A=0AResult: dhcpd works (i.e. I see entries in = the leases-file=0A(/var/db/dhcpd/var/db/dhcpd/dhcpd.leases) however nothing= is logged to=0A/var/log/dhcpd.log.=0A=0AI can rule out any error with sysl= ogd.conf since when I start isc-dhcp=0A"by hand" (/usr/local/sbin/dhcpd -d)= I get an error message - and this=0Aone is definitely logged to /var/log/d= hcpd.log.=0A=0AWhat I really need though is a log of all the DHCP-transacti= ons,=0Ai.e. DHCP-requests, address assignments etc.=0A=0AThanks much in adv= ance for your help,=0A-ewald=0A=0A=0A------------------------------=0A=0AMe= ssage: 24=0ADate: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 10:38:41 +0100=0AFrom: Matthew Seaman <m= atthew@FreeBSD.org>=0ASubject: Re: Is this something we (as consumers of Fr= eeBSD) need to be=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 aware of?=0ATo: Bruce Cran <bruce@cr= an.org.uk>=0ACc: Jerry <jerry@seibercom.net>, FreeBSD=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 = <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org>=0AMessage-ID: <4FCF2521.6090006@FreeBSD.org= >=0AContent-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"=0A=0AOn 06/06/2012 09:45, B= ruce Cran wrote:=0A> On 06/06/2012 08:32, Matthew Seaman wrote:=0A>> On dee= per thought though, the whole idea appears completely unworkable.=0A>>=C2= =A0 It means that you will not be able to compile your own kernel or=0A>> = drivers unless you have access to a signing key.=C2=A0 As building your own= =0A>> is pretty fundamental to the FreeBSD project, the logical consequence= is=0A>> that FreeBSD source should come with a signing key for anyone to u= se.=0A=0A> It just means that anyone wishing to run their own kernels would= either=0A> need to disable secure boot, or purchase/create their own certi= ficate=0A> and install it.=0A=0AIndeed.=C2=A0 However disabling secure boot= is apparently:=0A=0A=C2=A0 * too difficult for users of Fedora=0A=0A=C2= =A0 * not possible on all platforms (arm based tablets especially)=0A=0Aan= d purchasing your own certificate currently means paying $99 to=0AMicrosoft= , or else getting a key from the hardware manufacturer (which I=0Avery much= suspect will not be free either).=0A=0AWhile I would expect the typical Fr= eeBSD user to be quite capable of=0Adisabling secure boot, I know that this= is something that will result in=0Arealms of questions by new users, alarm= ist claims that "FreeBSD is not=0Asecure" and general glee amongst the "Fre= eBSD is dying" crowd.=0A=0AThis is just another misconceived DRM scheme and= suffers from all the=0Asame old flaws.=0A=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Cheers,=0A= =0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Matthew=0A=0A-- =0ADr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil.=0A= PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey=0A=0A=0A-------------- next p= art --------------=0AA non-text attachment was scrubbed...=0AName: signatur= e.asc=0AType: application/pgp-signature=0ASize: 267 bytes=0ADesc: OpenPGP d= igital signature=0AUrl : http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questio= ns/attachments/20120606/7544b4d4/signature-0001.pgp=0A=0A------------------= ------------=0A=0AMessage: 25=0ADate: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 02:46:38 -0700=0AFrom= : Mehmet Erol Sanliturk <m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com>=0ASubject: Re: Is this so= mething we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 aware= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 of?=0ATo: Matthew Seaman <matthew@freebsd.org>=0ACc: Bru= ce Cran <bruce@cran.org.uk>, Jerry <jerry@seibercom.net>,=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0 FreeBSD <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>=0AMessage-ID:=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0 <CAOgwaMv9uRguo9j70_jYG3-FXCT4e0+J3X05DD39E58YOmWLLQ@mail.gmail.com>=0A= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DUTF-8=0A=0AOn Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 2:38 = AM, Matthew Seaman <matthew@freebsd.org> wrote:=0A=0A> On 06/06/2012 09:45,= Bruce Cran wrote:=0A> > On 06/06/2012 08:32, Matthew Seaman wrote:=0A> >> = On deeper thought though, the whole idea appears completely unworkable.=0A>= >>=C2=A0 It means that you will not be able to compile your own kernel or= =0A> >> drivers unless you have access to a signing key.=C2=A0 As building = your own=0A> >> is pretty fundamental to the FreeBSD project, the logical c= onsequence is=0A> >> that FreeBSD source should come with a signing key for= anyone to use.=0A>=0A> > It just means that anyone wishing to run their ow= n kernels would either=0A> > need to disable secure boot, or purchase/creat= e their own certificate=0A> > and install it.=0A>=0A> Indeed.=C2=A0 However= disabling secure boot is apparently:=0A>=0A>=C2=A0 * too difficult for us= ers of Fedora=0A>=0A>=C2=A0 * not possible on all platforms (arm based tab= lets especially)=0A>=0A> and purchasing your own certificate currently mean= s paying $99 to=0A> Microsoft, or else getting a key from the hardware manu= facturer (which I=0A> very much suspect will not be free either).=0A>=0A> W= hile I would expect the typical FreeBSD user to be quite capable of=0A> dis= abling secure boot, I know that this is something that will result in=0A> r= ealms of questions by new users, alarmist claims that "FreeBSD is not=0A> s= ecure" and general glee amongst the "FreeBSD is dying" crowd.=0A>=0A> This = is just another misconceived DRM scheme and suffers from all the=0A> same o= ld flaws.=0A>=0A>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Cheers,=0A>=0A>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Matthew=0A>=0A> --=0A> Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil.=0A> PG= P: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A=0A=0Ahttp://www.= infoworld.com/t/hacking/tech-behind-flame-attack-could-compromise-microsoft= -update-194867=0A=0A=0AThank you very much .=0A=0AMehmet Erol Sanliturk=0A= =0A=0A------------------------------=0A=0AMessage: 26=0ADate: Wed, 06 Jun 2= 012 01:37:18 +0200=0AFrom: "Julian H. Stacey" <jhs@berklix.com>=0ASubject: = Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be=0A=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0 aware=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 of? =0ATo: FreeBSD Questions <questions@f= reebsd.org>=0AMessage-ID: <201206052338.q55NbIWr062787@fire.js.berklix.net>= =0A=0Ajerrymc@msu.edu wrote:=0A> Quoting Kurt Buff <kurt.buff@gmail.com>:= =0A> =0A> > UEFI considerations drive Fedora to pay MSFT to sign their kern= el binaries=0A> > http://cwonline.computerworld.com/t/8035515/1292406/56557= 3/0/=0A> >=0A> > This would seem to make compiling from source difficult.= =0A> >=0A> =0A> I don't see how this MS scam is even at all legal.=0A> It i= s clearly restraint of trade and probably violates some other=0A> related l= aws too.=0A=0AA shame Bush blocked dismembering monopolist Microsoft.=C2=A0= =0AThe last enormous fines Microsoft paid the EU for monopoly abuse,=0Apre= sumably failed to discipline Microsoft. =0A=0ATime for increased fines, til= l Microsoft stops abusing its monooly.=0AWould be nice if the fines were so= high it forced a free recall by=0Ahardware vendors to fix, if it can't be = fixed with a UEFI net upgrade.=0A=0ACheers,=0AJulian=0A-- =0AJulian Stacey,= BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultants Munich http://berklix.com=0AReply bel= ow not above, cumulative like a play script, & indent with "> ".=0AFormat: = Plain text. Not HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable.=0A= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Mail from @yahoo dumped @berklix.=C2=A0 http://berklix.o= rg/yahoo/=0A=0A=0A------------------------------=0A=0AMessage: 27=0ADate: W= ed, 6 Jun 2012 06:24:37 -0400=0AFrom: Jerry <jerry@seibercom.net>=0ASubject= : Re: Is this something we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be=0A=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0 aware of?=0ATo: FreeBSD <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>=0AMessage= -ID: <20120606062437.41f48a9e@scorpio>=0AContent-Type: text/plain; charset= =3D"utf-8"=0A=0AOn Wed, 06 Jun 2012 10:38:41 +0100=0AMatthew Seaman articul= ated:=0A=0A>On 06/06/2012 09:45, Bruce Cran wrote:=0A>> On 06/06/2012 08:32= , Matthew Seaman wrote:=0A>>> On deeper thought though, the whole idea appe= ars completely=0A>>> unworkable. It means that you will not be able to comp= ile your own=0A>>> kernel or drivers unless you have access to a signing ke= y.=C2=A0 As=0A>>> building your own is pretty fundamental to the FreeBSD pr= oject, the=0A>>> logical consequence is that FreeBSD source should come wit= h a=0A>>> signing key for anyone to use.=0A>=0A>> It just means that anyone= wishing to run their own kernels would=0A>> either need to disable secure = boot, or purchase/create their own=0A>> certificate and install it.=0A>=0A>= Indeed.=C2=A0 However disabling secure boot is apparently:=0A>=0A>=C2=A0 *= too difficult for users of Fedora=0A>=0A>=C2=A0 * not possible on all pla= tforms (arm based tablets especially)=0A>=0A>and purchasing your own certif= icate currently means paying $99 to=0A>Microsoft, or else getting a key fro= m the hardware manufacturer (which=0A>I very much suspect will not be free = either).=0A=0AI think you are in error there Matthew. From what I have read= The $99=0Agoes to Verisign, not Microsoft - further once paid you can sign= as=0Amany binaries as you want.=0A=0A>While I would expect the typical Fre= eBSD user to be quite capable of=0A>disabling secure boot, I know that this= is something that will result=0A>in realms of questions by new users, alar= mist claims that "FreeBSD is=0A>not secure" and general glee amongst the "F= reeBSD is dying" crowd.=0A>=0A>This is just another misconceived DRM scheme= and suffers from all the=0A>same old flaws.=0A=0AI don't feel this is misc= onceived at all. Again, from what I have read,=0Amost non-Microsoft operati= ng systems have been able to use UEFI Secure=0ABoot for nearly eight years;= however, they have actively refused to do=0Aso. However, now Microsoft has= stepped up to the plate and is=0Aactively taking advantage of the scheme. = Actually, Microsoft has been=0Aissuing warnings for ten years when a user w= ould attempt to install=0Aunsigned drivers. Now the FOSS community is getti= ng its knickers in a=0Aknot. They should have taken this into account a lon= g time ago. In any=0Acase, we are talking $99 dollars total, not per user h= ere for the=0Acertificate. If that is going to cause a problem, I'll donate= the $99.=0AIn any case, the real problem appears to be how FreeBSD is goin= g to=0Ahandle drivers which apparently will need to be signed since they wo= rk=0Aat the kernel level. Apparently Fedora has a working solution for that= =0Aall ready.=0A=0A-- =0AJerry =E2=99=94=0A=0ADisclaimer: off-list followup= s get on-list replies or get ignored.=0APlease do not ignore the Reply-To h= eader.=0A__________________________________________________________________= =0A=0A-------------- next part --------------=0AA non-text attachment was s= crubbed...=0AName: signature.asc=0AType: application/pgp-signature=0ASize: = 488 bytes=0ADesc: not available=0AUrl : http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/= freebsd-questions/attachments/20120606/4bf1d8b5/signature-0001.pgp=0A=0A---= ---------------------------=0A=0AMessage: 28=0ADate: Wed, 06 Jun 2012 11:38= :51 +0100=0AFrom: Bruce Cran <bruce@cran.org.uk>=0ASubject: Re: Is this som= ething we (as consumers of FreeBSD) need to be=0A=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 aware o= f?=0ATo: FreeBSD <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>=0ACc: Jerry <jerry@seiberc= om.net>=0AMessage-ID: <4FCF333B.9030402@cran.org.uk>=0AContent-Type: text/p= lain; charset=3DUTF-8; format=3Dflowed=0A=0AOn 06/06/2012 11:24, Jerry wrot= e:=0A>=0A> They should have taken this into account a long time ago. In any= =0A> case, we are talking $99 dollars total, not per user here for the=0A> = certificate. If that is going to cause a problem, I'll donate the $99.=0A= =0AIt's not the $99 that'll be the problem, but the fact that it's Verisign= =0A(actually Symantec, since they bought Verisign) that you deal with. =0A= Whereas Globalsign accept applications from individuals, Verisign =0Arequir= e company documents before they'll generate a certificate.=0A=0A-- =0ABruce= Cran=0A=0A=0A------------------------------=0A=0A_________________________= ______________________=0Afreebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list=0Ahttp:= //lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions=0ATo unsubscribe, se= nd any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"=0A=0AEnd of free= bsd-questions Digest, Vol 418, Issue 7=0A**********************************= ***************
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