From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 25 01:52:38 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B7CE16A41B for ; Tue, 25 Sep 2007 01:52:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBF7913C468 for ; Tue, 25 Sep 2007 01:52:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDESK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id l8P1qUfk053178; Mon, 24 Sep 2007 18:52:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Nikos Vassiliadis" , Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 18:53:01 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <200709241510.30366.nvass@teledomenet.gr> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1896 Importance: Normal Cc: Giorgos Keramidas , Pollywog Subject: RE: Why is sendmail in the core of FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 01:52:38 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Nikos > Vassiliadis > Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 5:10 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Cc: Giorgos Keramidas; Pollywog > Subject: Re: Why is sendmail in the core of FreeBSD? > > > On Saturday 22 September 2007 23:41, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > On 2007-09-22 20:12, Pollywog wrote: > > >On Saturday 22 September 2007 19:27:36 Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > > >> That's because there's no such thing as a "newbie Sendmail user". > > >> Nobody stays a newbie long enough if they configure Sendmail properly > > > > > > That is why I use Postfix. I would not go from Postfix to Sendmail > > > because it would make life difficult. > > > > Heh, what I wrote was supposed to be a joke, but oh well :-) > > You haven't been forced to administer sendmail. That's > why you are making jokes about it. Well, I was, and it > wasn't much fun ;) Probably because you were forced. I was never forced to admin sendmail and I have a lot of fun with it, frankly. I even ran UUCP with it for a few years. What I find the most "unfun" part of administering a mailserver, to be perfectly frank, is the subsidiary programs. For example, can anyone explain why clamav has suddenly decided to consume 70% of CPU at about 15 seconds to scan a simple 4K message on a server I have with a 3Ghz dual-core CPU? I find programs like clamav, spamassassin, dspam, mailscanner, etc. etc. to be big black boxes, with ugly configuration files and senseless internals, but that are nevertheless critical to handling mail on a large scale today. Far more critical, I might add, than the MTA and local delivery agents. Ted