From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 22 15:54:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D00D237C2DF for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 15:54:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA30536; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 16:54:02 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id QAA34951; Wed, 22 Mar 2000 16:54:01 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200003222354.QAA34951@harmony.village.org> To: Vivek Khera Subject: Re: "dangerously dedicated" Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 22 Mar 2000 18:30:19 EST." <14553.22411.265795.429126@onceler.kcilink.com> References: <14553.22411.265795.429126@onceler.kcilink.com> <14552.57732.739752.665443@onceler.kcilink.com> <4.3.2.20000321160347.00ad9b20@207.227.119.2> <38D50DBC.88FA8E4D@glue.umd.edu> <38D3AB72.366D851D@glue.umd.edu> <200003152159.OAA89926@harmony.village.org> <38D03E64.3D17FC34@glue.umd.edu> <200003190433.VAA04863@harmony.village.org> <200003212255.PAA26291@harmony.village.org> <200003222301.QAA34410@harmony.village.org> Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2000 16:54:01 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <14553.22411.265795.429126@onceler.kcilink.com> Vivek Khera writes: : I guess I don't see how to use, eg, da0a without being "dangerously : dedicated". vi /etc/fstab. Or just use the names directly to the raw commands. : WL> FreeBSD lets you do this as well. Are you sure that Linux doesn't : WL> require fdisk disks? Linux/i386 doesn't have another form of disk : : Linux requires it to run, but doesn't hang forever if it doesn't : exist. FreeBSD is the only system I've encountered so far that will : lock up (ie, does not respond to any keyboard requests or terminate : its probe) when scanning a disk without an FDISK table. I needed to : use freedos to add one to this particular drive. : FreeBSD doesn't hang forever either. I have some systems that have been in faithful service for years using dangerously dedicated mode. I've had lots of problems getting the geometry right in the BIOS when I've done this and once it was done I didn't want to mess with it at all. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message