From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 8 12:36:38 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8CCE8AA0 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 12:36:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-x22f.google.com (mail-wi0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::22f]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 258EE2BB2 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 12:36:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f175.google.com with SMTP id ho1so943492wib.14 for ; Fri, 08 Aug 2014 05:36:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=G1g6GTNwsWFH2ZCfLybvladKwEM49vyb3rmAzwRGne4=; b=RSQLMru8h7IInE/jIY+dII7+3Viz9u9g7nG1HQvZyJ1UuzRjVvviq3s9oq8dgAilRh CZleSJ2Z7imyovIr+tX/JJvitrfmdU1SFIlHlSjhjDZQsvKQCDhaZa4KifN+9/o4+bDW PwGHUuQGm7/amj3amMFEXPBFQVEwiQuCXX48Pn9xnmrzkr2UwJX6R4xFqZFMTm8liKbt IqIIU6CnvwLHHQaAhAuTWGEOXNGlnHpAMgH+CePFuz4DHqfYyDq3ON/6iCvRTUBkECci NbFRUCFTHkWTpBG96T/VpvPfrbfgQrP6S8vCyYlf82IjPp8lsOAiWxOcxsGLuyruGskw dulQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.104.163 with SMTP id gf3mr3993336wib.24.1407501395477; Fri, 08 Aug 2014 05:36:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.186.196 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 05:36:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20140808034755.GA98543@home.parts-unknown.org> References: <20140802223804.GA42137@home.parts-unknown.org> <20140808034755.GA98543@home.parts-unknown.org> Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 08:36:35 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Touchpad issues From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: David Benfell Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 12:36:38 -0000 On 7 August 2014 23:47, David Benfell wrote: > On Thu, Aug 07, 2014 at 12:22:34PM -0400, illoai@gmail.com wrote: >> >> I strongly dislike xorg taking over the kernel r=C3=B4le of >> mediating hardware, so I don't have a HAL-ified xorg, >> & I have >> hw.psm.synaptics_support=3D1 >> in my /boot/loader.conf >> & I use the old, simple "Driver" "mouse" with /dev/sysmouse >> (Options "Protocol" "auto"). Letting moused(8) >> handle the plugging & unplugging of USB mousies >> works fine & everything I need does what I need. >> >> I'm not saying this is the best way to handle it, but it >> does give edge scrolling & such, & a bunch of tunables >> under hw.psm that I've never fiddled with. It's a bit >> touchy for my taste, but dropping your wrists while >> typing is a bad habit anyway. >> >> I also don't know how well moused(8) works with a HAL- >> ified xorg & hot-plugging USB mousies, I don't care to >> test it. >> > Do you allow hald to run at all? If so, how do you tell it to ignore > the mouse? If not, am I overestimating the difficulty of dealing with > hot-plugged USB devices? > > When I am on the road, I will sometimes plug a trackball mouse into > the thing. It's *much* easier to deal with than the touchpad and it's > USB. > > As for sensitivity, that's my problem. If my wrists are within six > inches of that touchpad, horizontally, vertically, or diagonally, it's > liable to move the cursor and sense a click. Text winds up getting > typed in completely the wrong places--which is a real problem when > you're a Ph.D. student writing 20-plus page tomes. > > To maybe--only maybe--limit this, I would have to type with my hands > held vertically, which is unlikely to be healthier or preferable > technique to letting your wrists drop. ;-) > No HAL at all (you have to build xorg-server from ports). I also have hald_enable=3D"NO" (& dbus_enable=3D"NO") set in /etc/rc.conf because I simply dislike those abominations. moused(8), handles USB mousies just fine for my purposes. Set up basically just like https://wiki.freebsd.org/SynapticsTouchpad The default min_pressure of 16 has worked okay for a couple of years, it only reacts when my palm actually brushes the touchpad. --=20 --