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Date:      Tue, 18 Aug 2009 15:19:36 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Barney Cordoba <barney_cordoba@yahoo.com>
To:        Xin LI <delphij@delphij.net>, pyunyh@gmail.com
Cc:        David Christensen <davidch@broadcom.com>, "d@delphij.net" <d@delphij.net>, Julian Elischer <julian@elischer.org>, "freebsd-net@freebsd.org" <freebsd-net@freebsd.org>, Jack Vogel <jfvogel@gmail.com>, Jack F Vogel <jfv@freebsd.org>, yongari@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: [PATCH] Fix for e1000 (em/igb) NOARP issue [Was Re: em(4): sending ARP regardless of NOARP flag]
Message-ID:  <527700.21341.qm@web63902.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
In-Reply-To: <20090818214914.GC15025@michelle.cdnetworks.com>

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--- On Tue, 8/18/09, Pyun YongHyeon <pyunyh@gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Pyun YongHyeon <pyunyh@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [PATCH] Fix for e1000 (em/igb) NOARP issue [Was Re: em(4): sending ARP regardless of NOARP flag]
> To: "Xin LI" <delphij@delphij.net>
> Cc: "Barney Cordoba" <barney_cordoba@yahoo.com>, "David Christensen" <davidch@broadcom.com>, "d@delphij..net" <d@delphij.net>, "freebsd-net@freebsd.org" <freebsd-net@freebsd.org>, "Jack Vogel" <jfvogel@gmail.com>, "Jack F Vogel" <jfv@freebsd.org>, yongari@freebsd.org, "Julian Elischer" <julian@elischer.org>
> Date: Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 5:49 PM
> On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 02:03:37PM
> -0700, Xin LI wrote:
> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > Hash: SHA1
> > 
> > Hi, Jack,
> > 
> > I have looked into the code history and found that
> sys/dev/em/if_em.c,v
> > 1.119 has introduced the arp_ifinit() call in order to
> fix the problem
> > that if_em won't send ARP when IP address is changed.
> > 
> > I think we can further improve it as attached, say,
> only do it when
> > IFF_NOARP is not set.  This should have no effect
> for usual
> > configuration but fix the problem when NOARP is the
> desired behavior.
> > 
> 
> That change was introduced by me. I guess the root cause of
> the
> problem was long initialization time of hardware which in
> turn
> resulted in unbearable boot time when multiple-alias
> addresses are
> assigned to em(4). I don't remember details,though.
> 
> Since we're in the release cycle, the change you suggested
> would be
> quick fix for 8.0. I think em(4)/igb(4) should remove
> SIOCSIFADDR
> handling in driver which is layering violation.

There are 2 kinds of programmers; those who do things "correctly',
and those that do things that work. 

99.99999% of the people will be using ARPs, so don't be silly and
break the driver to solve a case that almost no-one cares about please.

Barney







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