From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 18 17:53:59 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C15B10656C1 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:53:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from p.massat@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f218.google.com (mail-gx0-f218.google.com [209.85.217.218]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B98468FC1D for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:53:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk10 with SMTP id 10so1279275gxk.3 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:53:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:from:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc :content-type; bh=D6JLQK4AjOac1A2u0rgNFfX0FnPV/NcLo7FBafnVHeg=; b=kR2LgYrsxkaI9Cg+YZkWzVdaT9GozfNCE5hOJtfkJRjpPo8IYYUbaJ5JsFamHBW/tz 9NyN1gNIIE9Wq/4lYSU67SU21cjFp80I1Flqo95FY/MwskKLQhhihuHSTnIJQg2blL/C rZnvKO42hBxSwOlXHqhs0JR2Jy8W480MMFWuI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; b=MK0LHeijDGiNlyp+H8PO2pfyWnKdPruHRnWH4s/PzFvfbCb+zYC6EEmaWLqpOf3lS9 LP/OkOJE3i/DzagMOwmnCP2jCspjnSKjUo9hstL68oK27dlzhwWLcPYijw05Eylkc1pu rQtRGy4Z41MO82Kauffu3Y0VjTHQNRDHbn4/E= MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: p.massat@gmail.com Received: by 10.101.74.6 with SMTP id b6mr2653825anl.186.1258565035914; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:23:55 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <2e027be00911180833t6a5dbae7kc796db49c7d3b476@mail.gmail.com> References: <20091118135340.522fa36a@ernst.jennejohn.org> <2e027be00911180833t6a5dbae7kc796db49c7d3b476@mail.gmail.com> From: Pierre Massat Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 18:23:35 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: b60216fce589137b Message-ID: <4c3c61160911180923h900f44u74a040726f2b42d4@mail.gmail.com> To: Tom Evans Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: freebsd-current Subject: Re: request: LOADER_ZFS_SUPPORT X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 17:53:59 -0000 On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 5:33 PM, Tom Evans wrote: > Of the hoops that I had to jump through to install FreeBSD 8 on a ZFS raidz, > the least inconsequential was rebuilding loader with ZFS support. Truly, > truly simple. There is also no need to build a different installation image, > everything can be done from the fixit console on the installation media. You > also don't rebuild the system, you rebuild one tiny part of it, just the > loader. This is truly simple, I agree with you. But I have a ZFS-boot mirror and I upgraded to 8.0-RC3 recently and my server didn't reboot because I forgot the loader stuff. Of course, this wasn't a production server and I took some precautions, but it would be more convienient not to worry about such pointless detail. That's why changing the bootloader to be able to have ZFS built-in is, to my mind, a good thing. We can simplify the way ZFS is managed in Freebsd by such simple things. -- Pierre Massat