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From: Danny Braniss <danny@cs.huji.ac.il>
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Subject: Re: serial/ether console & ramblings 
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> Julian Elischer wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > Jeff Behl wrote:
> >
> >>>> but my whole point is that nothing in 1) works remotely (out of band)
> >>>> when the system and the BMC share the same ethernet controller, at 
> >>>> least
> >>>> with the bge driver.  as i mentioned in the thread, i can power cycle
> >>>> and see the serial console remotely (number 2 from above) all the 
> >>>> way up
> >>>> to the point where the kernel loads.  as soon as it does, the bge 
> >>>> driver
> >>>> no longer shunts off RMCP packets (what IPMI uses) to the Baseboard
> >>>> Management Controller, so no IPMI...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>     
> >>>
> >>> the intel MBs allow you to share the 10/100 ethernet with the IPMI
> >>> controller.
> >>>
> >>>   
> >>
> >>
> >> as do the motherboards with the e325s.  we can to everything out of band
> >> when running linux, but that's because the driver for the broadcom nics
> >> in linux are aware of the BMC...
> >>  
> >>
> >
> > I run the intels with FreeBSD OOB without any problems.
> 
> 
> what interface driver is being used?
> 
> that'd be nifty if the motherboard had first dibs on a packet, but i 
> didn't realize that was the way it could work.  the linux bge driver 
> certainly has code in it specifically for RMCP packets...

just look at the amount of magic needed to run IPMI!
	 ... BIOS+NIC+BMC+linux-emulation+cli+proxy ...

Can we get back on track? this is becoming a IPMI bashing, and we are no where
nearer in finding a decent repalcement for that good-old-serial-console.

danny