From owner-freebsd-current Thu Sep 30 16:45: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from alcanet.com.au (border.alcanet.com.au [203.62.196.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 529CC14DA0 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 1999 16:44:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeremyp@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au) Received: by border.alcanet.com.au id <40344>; Fri, 1 Oct 1999 09:41:41 +1000 Content-return: prohibited Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 09:44:41 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy Subject: Re: System crash on "vinum start" In-reply-to: <3.0.3.32.19990930182053.0219b760@207.227.119.2> To: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: peter.jeremy@alcatel.com.au Message-Id: <99Oct1.094141est.40344@border.alcanet.com.au> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3i Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii References: <19990928084130.L46202@freebie.lemis.com> <19990925104024.B54407@freebie.lemis.com> <199909271705.NAA43302@concours.pc.sas.com> <3.0.3.32.19990927153730.0204c420@207.227.119.2> <19990928084130.L46202@freebie.lemis.com> <99Sep28.125643est.40332@border.alcanet.com.au> <3.0.3.32.19990930182053.0219b760@207.227.119.2> Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 09:20:53AM +1000, Jeffrey J. Mountin wrote: >At 12:59 PM 9/28/99 +1000, Peter Jeremy wrote: >>On Tue, Sep 28, 1999 at 09:11:31AM +1000, Greg Lehey wrote: >>> Good software shouldn't panic. >>I wish _I_ could convince some people of this :-(. > >It can be difficult to consider what a user can do and tends to bloat the >code a bit. Frustrates my instructors, since it very much a habit when I >script and carried over to C. 8-) I was thinking of some `production' code (written by a sister company) that I used to provide customer support for. It would regularly core dump (but was automatically restarted). After a few years they did manage to fix the core dump, but that exposed a memory leak which they never did manage to fix (fairly embarrasing in a supposedly permanently running process). >Speaking of, why is (would) root filesystem support necessary for non >root/swap automagical recovery. I gather that root support is the most-asked-for feature in Vinum (when I asked Greg about it some weeks ago, I got about as far as `when will Vinum' before he answered me). As long as recovery works, making it nicer to use is (should be) a lower priority. Peter -- Peter Jeremy (VK2PJ) peter.jeremy@alcatel.com.au Alcatel Australia Limited 41 Mandible St Phone: +61 2 9690 5019 ALEXANDRIA NSW 2015 Fax: +61 2 9690 5982 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message