Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2017 17:43:42 -0500 From: Stari Karp <starikarp@yandex.com> To: Baho Utot <baho-utot@columbus.rr.com>, freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: THANK YOU for flavors! Message-ID: <1512686622.79950.1.camel@yandex.com> In-Reply-To: <98c8597a-1db1-b1f6-2aa3-4f09b9a52c59@columbus.rr.com> References: <fe339d99-2516-d17d-fa94-b6ff48f57114@bluerosetech.com> <1afffe5a-8882-6cd8-5c09-b0c93e28bec5@gmail.com> <98c8597a-1db1-b1f6-2aa3-4f09b9a52c59@columbus.rr.com>
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On Thu, 2017-12-07 at 07:51 -0500, Baho Utot wrote: > > On 12/07/17 04:30, Johan Hendriks wrote: > > Op 07/12/2017 om 00:51 schreef Mel Pilgrim: > > > In the midst of all the negative noise, I thought I'd post and > > > say > > > thank you for bring in this feature. I've been chomping at the > > > bit to > > > try flavours out since I heard about them. I started flavouring > > > my > > > company's internal Ports Tree extension the evening after it > > > landed. > > > > > > Flavours are going to reduce 18 server role metaports to 3. > > > _______________________________________________ > > > freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list > > > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe@freeb > > > sd.org" > > > > Do you have a web page where flavours are explained nicely for non > > technical FreeBSD users so that they can also see the benefits of > > flavour. I think it is a little odd that a big change like this is > > not > > mentioned in any way on the front page of FreeBSD. > > I really believe things are better this way albeit i did not read > > and > > understand it in a whole. I also believe flavours are nice in a > > multi > > server envirement and on the desktop. > > The negative noice comes from people who USE FreeBSD on a single > > machine > > or maybe 2 and are now confronted with there old habbits not > > working > > anymore. > > Give those people a walkthrough how they can run poudriere. Best > > without > > out a server but just a oneliner they need to remeber for future > > updates. They do not want to spend too much time reading and trying > > to > > update there system. > > If FreeBSD has done that i think that was lot less negative noice > > on the > > channels. > > > > Secondly I want to thank you all for the great product FreeBSD is > > and it > > is a great product thanks to all the time people infest into > > FreeBSD. > > So thank you all. But i also hope FreeBSD learns from these big > > changes. > > If FreeBSD want a larger userbase, single machine users are there. > > And > > they do not want to spend an hour reading through a poudriere man > > page. > > They just want to type pgk upgrade, portmaster -d -a, or maybe > > poudriere > > update ports for all that matters. > > > > users also don't want to wake up to the fact that what worked a few > days > ago not is working ie fetch/update port repo run synth and then get a > " > What the fuck has just happened now" only to be put down by the so > called folks in charge here for even asking. > > I understand your frustration but I am happy with Synth and Mr. Marino made patches extremely fast. I updated everything with success.
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