From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu May 7 21:16:50 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA13369 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Thu, 7 May 1998 21:16:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fly.HiWAAY.net (root@fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA13272 for ; Thu, 7 May 1998 21:16:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net) Received: from nospam.hiwaay.net (tnt3-142.HiWAAY.net [208.147.146.142]) by fly.HiWAAY.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) with ESMTP id XAA05484; Thu, 7 May 1998 23:16:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nospam.hiwaay.net (8.8.8/8.8.4) with ESMTP id UAA21523; Thu, 7 May 1998 20:47:29 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <199805080147.UAA21523@nospam.hiwaay.net> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Eivind Eklund cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG From: David Kelly Subject: Re: cvs woes In-reply-to: Message from Eivind Eklund of "Thu, 07 May 1998 02:52:42 +0200." <19980507025242.48058@follo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 07 May 1998 20:47:29 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Eivind Eklund writes: > > How much memory does it take? I only have 64M and another 128M of swap. > > That should be enough physical memory - the question is how your > limits are set (ie, login.conf and ulimit are your friend.) Am using (now) box-stock login.conf which says, $Id: login.conf,v 1.9.2.7 1998/03/09 03:03:23 steve Exp $ Looks like root logins are unlimited. I've been running cvs as root but sometimes with a simple "su -m" and other times with "su -m -". Don't remember which I used the times I locked up my system. > > That's the strangest thing. "cvs update" was not restoring the deleted > > directories. > > That's because they're missing from the metadata for CVS in their > parent directory, thus CVS think they're directories you have created > that just happen to be in the way of ones it would like to create. Ah! So I need to clobber not only the problem directory but its parent too. > Strange. Sound like a problem with the kernel ppp driver that is > triggered by /usr/sbin/pppd running out of memory. I've watched pppd with top and not observed that it took much memory. I don't use cvs thru pppd, use cvsup for that. Was thinking it was more Netscape related because that's where I was playing when suddenly everything stopped. > > So I'm tempting fate again. Haven't had a freeze since replacing a very > > old /etc/login.conf. Netscape, pppd, and cvs are running at this very > > moment. The freeze never occurs until cvs is very near the end of its > > tasks. > > I believe cvs accumulate memory all through its task (ie, it doesn't > free as much as it should), but I might be wrong. Well, its probably login.conf releated as I haven't been able to reproduce the problem since. Previously it would happen 4 out of 5 times. X would freeze solid. No mouse, no nothing. I could see incoming traffic on the modem but no replies. Couldn't switch the console to a vty. Turned the modem off and walked away. Same state the next morning. If its a resource allocation problem in login.conf I'm mildly dissapointed FreeBSD (RELENG_2_2) didn't handle it more gracefully. Now off to see if I can do a "make release"... :-) -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message