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[91.2.48.56]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id e18sm10367853wrw.70.2020.02.15.02.22.55 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Sat, 15 Feb 2020 02:22:55 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2020 11:22:54 +0100 From: Gary Jennejohn To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Return of config files to ^/etc Message-ID: <20200215112254.7856e02a@ernst.home> In-Reply-To: <202002150104.01F142eE063954@slippy.cwsent.com> References: <202002150104.01F142eE063954@slippy.cwsent.com> Reply-To: gljennjohn@gmail.com X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.4 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd13.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48KRCQ34w8z44jQ X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=nL2o+FmK; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of gljennjohn@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::434 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=gljennjohn@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[gljennjohn@gmail.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36:c]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[56.48.2.91.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-arch@freebsd.org]; FREEMAIL_REPLYTO(0.00)[gmail.com]; IP_SCORE_FREEMAIL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[ip: (-9.38), ipnet: 2a00:1450::/32(-2.42), asn: 15169(-1.68), country: US(-0.05)]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[4.3.4.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.5.4.1.0.0.a.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2020 10:22:59 -0000 On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 17:04:02 -0800 Cy Schubert wrote: > In message om> > , Oliver Pinter writes: > > On Friday, February 14, 2020, Kyle Evans wrote: > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > I've organized a review[0] to return most config files back to etc/. > > > Many people were concerned about the mass exodus of etc/, and many > > > have expressed a desire (privately or otherwise) for these files to > > > return- some of these folks represent downstreams or consumer projects > > > that went through the painful move the first time and would happily go > > > through the pain again to restore the status quo. > > > > > > This does mean that we'd end up with a structure that's not compatible > > > with stable/12, but is compatible with every branch before it. > > > > > > If you have an opinion for or against. please speak up now. I'd like > > > to make sure we're moving in the correct direction as a developer > > > community. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Kyle Evans > > > > > > [0] https://reviews.freebsd.org/D23690 > > > > > > A very big yes. Please do it. > > It would be more straightforward and more backward compatible because the > > FreeBSD's repo is a monorepo. > > > > As far I remember, there was an mess around the password and groups file > > depending on the "default" shell. A sed magic or other black magic... > > Agreed. I was never enamoured with the move. > I'm in favor of this also. I never did understand the logic behind the change. -- Gary Jennejohn