From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 8 20:20:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41E89189; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 20:20:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bright@mu.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 291A02DDD; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 20:20:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from Alfreds-MacBook-Pro-9.local (c-76-21-10-192.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [76.21.10.192]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F1A581A3DBE; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 13:20:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <52546920.8090600@mu.org> Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 13:20:48 -0700 From: Alfred Perlstein User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Freddie Cash Subject: Re: rcs References: <77307DF8-637D-4295-BF47-8742F1552CE8@orthanc.ca> <20131008031517.GA31864@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <60177810-8DC4-4EA3-8040-A834B79039D2@orthanc.ca> <52538EDC.2080001@freebsd.org> <52541202.3010707@mu.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: Jordan Hubbard , Lyndon Nerenberg , "freebsd-current@freebsd.org" , Steve Kargl X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 20:20:47 -0000 oops, sent from my non-subscribed email.. On 10/8/13 11:17 AM, Freddie Cash wrote: > On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 7:09 AM, Alfred Perlstein >wrote: > > On 10/7/13 9:49 PM, Julian Elischer wrote: > > On 10/8/13 11:19 AM, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: > > On 2013-10-07, at 8:15 PM, Steve Kargl > > wrote: > > Maybe there was no development for 15 years. However, > the 7364 > lines in ChangeLog after 2010-02-04 suggests that > there may > be few bugs to worry about. > > > I think the fact is that most direct users of RCS use it in a > very simple way, and > it works just fine for that. with no real need for any > updates or any change. > > > With all due respect Julian, The more we discuss this more this > really points to the problem that FreeBSD appears to be a > challenge to install packages into such that a package moving out > of base is such a big deal. > > Can we fix that instead? > > I mean, this change should really not be a big deal, but yet it is > and this speaks to the core of FreeBSD utility. > > So again, is there a way to make it so adding RCS after install is > not a big deal at all? > > > ​I haven't kept up-to-date with all the developments, but isn't this > part of the bsdinstall/pkgng plan? Once the pkgng repos are all > available and populated, then bsdinstall will be able to install > packages from there during the install. And, isn't that part of the > plan for the DVD installers, to include an "installer repo" for > off-line installs? > > IOW, theoretically, one could just download the 10.0 DVD, boot, > install the base, browse the repo on the DVD, select items to install, > install, reboot, and be finished. Without ever needing to touch an > Internet connection until after rebooting into FreeBSD, if it's even > needed at all. > > Or was that one of the "pie-in-the-sky" ideas that hasn't materialised > yet?​ > I thought sysinstall could do this 13 years ago? -Alfred