From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 27 17:05:16 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A304116A41C for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 17:05:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (hobbiton.shire.net [166.70.252.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7729443D55 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 17:05:16 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from [67.161.222.227] (helo=[192.168.99.68]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.51) id 1Dmx2n-0002wH-R7; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:05:15 -0600 In-Reply-To: References: <200506270945.j5R9jkoR032624@mailserver3.hushmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v730) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <7C24F382-C0CA-4AD6-AAB5-F52DB0D8EFAD@shire.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:05:13 -0600 To: Nikolas Britton X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.730) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 67.161.222.227 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.3 (2005-04-27) on hobbiton.shire.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_50, GREYLIST_ISWHITE autolearn=disabled version=3.0.3 X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2 (built Mon May 30 00:43:02 MDT 2005) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on hobbiton.shire.net) Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List Subject: Re: freebsd as the basis for something better? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 17:05:16 -0000 On Jun 27, 2005, at 11:01 AM, Nikolas Britton wrote: > To bring UNIX to the masses one of the first things we need to do is > make installing and running apps easy. Right now we are in what once > was called "DLL Hell" in windows 3.x, is this the best we can do? Hard > drive space is a non issue today so what is wrong with making fat > binaries that that have all the dependencies compiled into one file. > Another apple idea is making the binaries platform independent so it > will run on an i386, ppc, sparc, etc. This is the biggest problem I > have with UNIX. > > Step 1: Download the app from developer foo's website. > Step 2: Double click on the app. > Step 3: The app launches and the dam thing just works. > > What is so hard about this guys? > > Anyways... here's a cool video from back in the day, 1991 (DOS 5.0 and > windows 3.0 in microsoft's timeline), with steve jobs demoing > NeXTSTEP. Microsoft's windows still can't do some of the stuff they > where doing back in 91. It a quicktime video btw: > http://www.openstep.se/jobs/ Is there any wonder that the people who have already brought "Unix" to the masses is Steve Jobs and the historical descendent to OpenStep (NEXTStep) -- Mac OS X? Most of what is described above exists in OS X already. Chad --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad@shire.net