From owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Fri Jan 25 19:53:18 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 582F914C05EA for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2019 19:53:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cy.schubert@cschubert.com) Received: from smtp-out-no.shaw.ca (smtp-out-no.shaw.ca [64.59.134.12]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2C4C56D013 for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2019 19:53:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cy.schubert@cschubert.com) Received: from spqr.komquats.com ([70.67.125.17]) by shaw.ca with ESMTPA id n7XNgSOWgMRX3n7XPgGwhP; Fri, 25 Jan 2019 12:53:16 -0700 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=TL87tGta c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=VFtTW3WuZNDh6VkGe7fA3g==:117 a=VFtTW3WuZNDh6VkGe7fA3g==:17 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=3JhidrIBZZsA:10 a=YxBL1-UpAAAA:8 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=RbMusnJVN3No25eDwM4A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=Ia-lj3WSrqcvXOmTRaiG:22 a=IjZwj45LgO3ly-622nXo:22 Received: from slippy.cwsent.com (slippy8 [10.2.2.6]) by spqr.komquats.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1C5F8EC7; Fri, 25 Jan 2019 11:53:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from slippy.cwsent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slippy.cwsent.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id x0PJrCQc004495; Fri, 25 Jan 2019 11:53:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com) Received: from slippy (cy@localhost) by slippy.cwsent.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id x0PJrCpQ004492; Fri, 25 Jan 2019 11:53:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com) Message-Id: <201901251953.x0PJrCpQ004492@slippy.cwsent.com> X-Authentication-Warning: slippy.cwsent.com: cy owned process doing -bs X-Mailer: exmh version 2.8.0 04/21/2012 with nmh-1.7.1 Reply-to: Cy Schubert From: Cy Schubert X-os: FreeBSD X-Sender: cy@cwsent.com X-URL: http://www.cschubert.com/ To: Robert Clausecker cc: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Importing mksh in base In-Reply-To: Message from Robert Clausecker of "Fri, 25 Jan 2019 20:35:25 +0100." <20190125193525.GA74966@fuz.su> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2019 11:53:12 -0800 X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfGmZCWpesZbiBwPliGXG8hIua2t6DlgEYgY90TmzyxqemA0Y+CWVJ6QLUAdLV0Bsv34oxy48HHUf5PGFq7zbhobjE3O+2WbSbv5j4A4o6cee4PGWGNV/ vMsRz75OhS+BpOgvhcmtZp/iZDuS3cCJBWu5WSgVnZekeyYnn2wOXvGPhQchUqeMzU+lpva+wYzm4YeJKtXRnuQX0T1pyUOXXdQ= X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 2C4C56D013 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.59 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[17.125.67.70.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.11]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: spqr.komquats.com]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.993,0]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[12.134.59.64.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6327, ipnet:64.59.128.0/20, country:CA]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-1.89)[ip: (-5.02), ipnet: 64.59.128.0/20(-2.43), asn: 6327(-1.88), country: CA(-0.09)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2019 19:53:18 -0000 In message <20190125193525.GA74966@fuz.su>, Robert Clausecker writes: > On Fri, Jan 25, 2019 at 09:12:58AM -0800, Cy Schubert wrote: > > Why not ksh93 instead? It is the original and authoritative Korn > > shell. EPL is compatible with the BSD license. Personally, I've been > > toying with the idea of importing ksh93 for a while now. > > Note that ksh93 comes with a builtin user land from AT&T which should > behave quite a bit differently from the FreeBSD userland. So unless we > want to maintain two slightly different userlands (one of which needs to > be maintained in conflict with upstream), that has to be torn out, which > kills one of the performance advantages of ksh93. Oh really? Explain please. -- Cheers, Cy Schubert FreeBSD UNIX: Web: http://www.FreeBSD.org The need of the many outweighs the greed of the few.