From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 7 12:24:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB2013DD for ; Sun, 7 Apr 2013 12:24:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net) Received: from smtp-out02.alice-dsl.net (smtp-out02.alice-dsl.net [88.44.60.9]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D7679F6 for ; Sun, 7 Apr 2013 12:24:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from out.alice-dsl.de ([192.168.125.60]) by smtp-out02.alice-dsl.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 7 Apr 2013 14:19:17 +0200 Received: from [78.50.20.0] ([78.50.20.0]) by out.alice-dsl.de over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 7 Apr 2013 14:19:15 +0200 Message-ID: <1365337155.4069.138.camel@archlinux> Subject: Re: Youtube & Flash Videos broken? From: Ralf Mardorf To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2013 14:19:15 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20130407074430.1e98811f@scorpio> References: <20130406213911.GB2802@schweikhardt.net> <1365285205.709.7.camel@archlinux> <1365285467.709.10.camel@archlinux> <20130407062158.08e1c3fb@scorpio> <1365332719.4069.99.camel@archlinux> <20130407074430.1e98811f@scorpio> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.6.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Apr 2013 12:19:15.0359 (UTC) FILETIME=[1EAEAAF0:01CE338A] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2013 12:24:07 -0000 On Sun, 2013-04-07 at 07:44 -0400, Jerry wrote: > You hear FreeBSD users who claim > that they never use Flash, which in itself is an interesting > statement. > If it doesn't work, then obviously you cannot take advantage of it. I > suspect at least 50% of them are liars. The rest are more than likely > expressing their "sour-grapes" wrath. No, I guess at least for media players you're mistaken. I was born in 1966 and a lot of people from my generation still own a television set, turntables etc.. Not seldom I watch several hours television at one day. I guess after watching 4 hours television, it's not hard to spare flash on the computer ;). Yes, you can miss interesting stuff without flash, but you also will miss interesting things, if you watch too much videos. In the past I used flash, I tested gnash first, but I preferred the proprietary thingy. It started as an experiment when I installed Arch Linux some weeks ago and I noticed that I can live without flash. However, I only need to run one command to get flash and on Linux AFAIK it doesn't cause issues until now. $ yaourt flashplayer 1 extra/flashplugin 11.2.202.275-1 Adobe Flash Player 2 aur/bin32-flashplayer-standalone 11.2.202.275-1 (5) Macromedia standalone flash player (nonfree) 3 aur/flashplayer-standalone 11.2.202.275-1 (134) Macromedia standalone flash player (nonfree) 4 aur/flashplayer-standalone-debug 11.2.202.275-1 (7) Standalone, debug version of Adobe Flash Player 5 aur/gnash-git 20120122-1 (Out of Date) (3) An open source flashplayer - git version ==> Enter n° of packages to be installed (ex: 1 2 3 or 1-3) ==> ------------------------------------------------------- ==> ^C I even don't know if I have flash on FreeBSD installed, since I more often use Linux.