From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jul 28 16:57:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA18608 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 16:57:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA18557 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 16:57:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id JAA21144; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 09:26:28 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) id JAA20676; Wed, 29 Jul 1998 09:26:26 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <19980729092626.B716@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 09:26:26 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Ruslan Ermilov Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Mail delivery problems (was: Can anyone located near hub.FreeBSD.org PLEASE help me?) References: <19980728131125.A783@ucb.crimea.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <19980728131125.A783@ucb.crimea.ua>; from Ruslan Ermilov on Tue, Jul 28, 1998 at 01:11:25PM +0300 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 X-Mutt-References: <19980728131125.A783@ucb.crimea.ua> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tuesday, 28 July 1998 at 13:11:25 +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > Hi! > > I have a problem receiving mail from hub.FreeBSD.org. > All that mail goes thru my secondary MX (relay1.crimea.ua == spider.cris.net), > which is three-hops away from me: > > traceroute to spider.cris.net (194.93.176.65), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets > 1 ferrix (194.93.177.116) 0.957 ms > 2 Simferopol-GW-1.CRIS.NET (194.93.177.1) 137.948 ms > 3 spider.cris.net (194.93.176.65) 132.561 ms > > Look at this: > > Received: from spider.cris.net (root@spider.cris.net [194.93.176.65]) > by relay.ucb.crimea.ua (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA00717 > for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 12:46:58 +0300 (EEST) > (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) > Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.18]) > by spider.cris.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA23796 > for ; Tue, 28 Jul 1998 12:46:43 +0300 (EET DST) > Received: from localhost (daemon@localhost) > by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA00610; > Tue, 28 Jul 1998 01:36:53 -0700 (PDT) > (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions) > > I have no such problems with other big-volume mailing lists. > All they come directly from their servers to my primary MX host: > relay.ucb.crimea.ua. This is a feature, not a bug. hub downloads mailing list mail only to a number of distribution sites around the world. For example, mine comes from ns3.harborcom.net, sarip.sol.net or smyrno.sol.net. It's just a coincidence that the relay is your secondary MX. I've just sent you a message as requested, directly from hub. It went to you directly: Jul 28 16:47:53 hub sendmail[17284]: QAA17284: from=grog, size=5, class=0, pri=30005, nrcpts=1, msgid=<199807282347.QAA17284@hub.freebsd.org>, relay=grog@localhost Jul 28 16:48:37 hub sendmail[17284]: QAA17284: to=ru@ucb.crimea.ua, ctladdr=grog (645/645), delay=00:00:45, xdelay=00:00:43, mailer=smtp8, relay=relay.ucb.crimea.ua. [194.93.177.113], stat=Sent (CAA06324 Message accepted for delivery) This difference, incidentally, also accounts for why messages addressed both to you and to the list can arrive at wildly different times. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message