From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 10 22:08:16 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ports@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADF9716A4F3 for ; Wed, 10 May 2006 22:08:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from serge@quenix1.dyndns.org) Received: from relais.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C31B43D48 for ; Wed, 10 May 2006 22:08:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from serge@quenix1.dyndns.org) Received: from quenix2.dyndns.org ([66.131.244.21]) by VL-MH-MR001.ip.videotron.ca (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-2.05 (built Apr 28 2005)) with ESMTP id <0IZ200EEJLHRA0P0@VL-MH-MR001.ip.videotron.ca> for ports@freebsd.org; Wed, 10 May 2006 18:08:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from quenix1 ([192.168.0.11] helo=quenix1.dyndns.org) by quenix2.dyndns.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Fdwqt-000MOP-10 for ports@freebsd.org; Wed, 10 May 2006 18:08:15 -0400 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=quenix1.dyndns.org) by quenix1.dyndns.org with esmtp (Exim 4.61 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1Fdwqs-0001Qg-OC for ports@freebsd.org; Wed, 10 May 2006 18:08:14 -0400 X-URL: http://quenix2.dyndns.org:8080/ Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 18:08:14 -0400 From: serge.gagnon@b2b2c.ca (Serge Gagnon) In-reply-to: Sender: serge@quenix1.dyndns.org To: ports@freebsd.org Message-id: <0IZ200EEKLHRA0P0@VL-MH-MR001.ip.videotron.ca> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.7.2 01/07/2005 with nmh-1.2 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.0-STABLE i386 X-Location: Quebec, Qc Canada lat 46deg 49'12" lon -71deg 13'48" X-Image-URL: http://quenix2.dyndns.org:8080/images/s.gagnon-48x48.gif X-Face-URL: http://quenix2.dyndns.org:8080/images/s.gagnon-48x48.gif References: <20060508205703.GA11215@daemons.gr> <200605082120.k48LKxSi006193@peedub.jennejohn.org> <20060508213035.GA73976@daemons.gr> <0IYY001DYWNE9C51@VL-MH-MR002.ip.videotron.ca> <0IZ2000IVDQ5UB80@VL-MO-MR004.ip.videotron.ca> Comments: In-reply-to martinko message dated "Wed, 10 May 2006 23:47:46 +0200." Cc: Subject: Re: ports structure and improvement suggestions X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Serge Gagnon List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 22:08:17 -0000 >>>>> On Wed, 10 May 2006, "martinko" == martinko wrote: martinko> Serge Gagnon wrote: +> Secondo, I think that most of the users know approximatly what this or +> that port do and if they have to modify their build with WITH/WITHOUT +> or not. Just my point of view again. martinko> yes, you're basically right. fiddling with too many options at martinko> one time scares me, too. :) martinko> on the other hand, it's not that users wouldn't know what their martinko> ports are about. it's that they wouldn't know of switches that martinko> might be available for them. and no, i wouldn't agree with "if martinko> you don't know about it, you don't need it". ;-) How do think that they'll know about what these ports need or not to be built correctly if they don't know about these ports itself ? +> However, if such a system will be put in place, I think that the idea +> of asking the user once and at the beginning of the build processe is a +> good one. I like to start a big build then go to sleep and not thinking +> that my station is, perhaps, asking me something or not. +> I'm just scared about the fact that I can't imagine myself answering a +> listing of one miles long before building a port even if it's just one +> time at the beginning and that these options will be saved. And asking +> again to this same listing if I want to change these options. martinko> you always can define a batch mode and you won't be prompted, martinko> defaults will be used. If you think that this modification is for new user, I think that you're wrong. Re-read what I wrote above. They'll answer a lot of things that they know nothing about and when they will finaly find that they can define a BATCH=YES-like, this is what they'll do for sure. -- GAGNON serge PGP KEY-ID: 0xBBC1478F PGP Fingerprint: B48B 4633 28F5 28F6 7A62 5650 69C8 E293 BBC1 478F PPG Key: http://quenix2.dyndns.org:7777 | telnet quenix2.dyndns.org 7777 Cvsdadm: Tool for CVSd pserver user administration http://quenix2.dyndns.org:8080/Unix-soft/cvsdadm.html