From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 10 14:24:02 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 959AB106568D for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:24:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com) Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.154]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EF428FC18 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:24:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 16so531602fgg.13 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 06:24:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=VcQmYI87G8+2FdaZAVDtkyrZbBtXpiYaP9/LJLhi18M=; b=XYiZYhwsSa9U2r1RO/iojzS/haqelzvFrOMOnnAab7/HYliXIU0negg/ZK5xA+oWli 6Mm2lZjmpFTKdZ9zlpVaKh6M191SXODdJ3bRGPCeeAEjEw9/UbRsmY8UBbIYI5EIo4w5 NSOXQYd+qA/MGShgS8c+wTV/03Z7dhGMBoZvQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; b=N4x6HMRlRruTm7yOg6XsuR+MfzVzeYnG9eeq3LVPZlWeHKHXxtk/eYaHzKn/0qMC9h tP9p/m0ctd1p1AtnuFiGPoP6F0KQvwJdYrw+RSmOs8Yd+/xuRoH0DUchzQ9mKvg+wXqG Dg6ODCKzSbUYVfhc8hkp9moozerFoGi/P6lkk= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.144.100 with SMTP id n36mr2hba.19.1260455040408; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 06:24:00 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4B20FF37.8020008@forethought.net> References: <20091206102227.7C3BA10656F0@hub.freebsd.org> <20091210185602.T12012@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <20091210101812.63806e1c.freebsd@edvax.de> <4B20F60B.7090701@otenet.gr> <4B20FF37.8020008@forethought.net> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 09:24:00 -0500 Message-ID: From: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk To: Reed Loefgren X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:30:41 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: Manolis Kiagias , Nicky Chorley , Polytropon , Ian Smith , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 8.0 installation doesn't contain X distributions X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:24:02 -0000 On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 9:01 AM, Reed Loefgren wrote: > > >> Exactly. Most desktop users want a working system in the minimum of time >> (Can't blame them for that). >> Even with packages, we cannot beat an image-based distro, esp. since it >> will also provide all essential default settings. >> >> >> >> > If I might butt in: If the user-to-be wants a working system in 5 minutes > could there be a link on the FreeBSD homepage itself directing them to > PC-BSD (or similar) .ISOs? Perhaps with an addendum that, while they can > download and install FreeBSD 'straight up, no chaser' using an image from > the FreeBSD page, it *isn't* going to be 5 minutes and perhaps a derivative > version might be their best bet. > > Just a thought, > > > r > After trying installation of FreeBSD 8.0 Release ( before RCs ) without success ( Gnome : Some menu elements are not working , for example shutdown , it is becoming necessary to open a terminal and explicitly write shutdown -p now , it is not possible to every thing by terminal or GUI elements ) , ( KDE4 : Konsole not working because after a short show of terminal window , it is disappearing , it is not possible to do every thing without Konsole ) , ( XFCE - It is becoming rock solid due to key board insensitivity , on the same computer many operating systems are working , from FreeBSD to many Linux distributions ) . After those attempts , I have installed DesktopBSD 1.7 . I can say that it is a WONDERFUL FreeBSD distribution based on FreeBSD 7.2 and KDE4 where FreeBSD 7.2 from www.FreeBSD.org can not be compared with its beatiness . Now , I am waiting FreeBSD 8.x from www.FreeBSD.org , where x > 0 , with the hope that it will be possible to have an easily usable FreeBSD distribution . Thank you very much . Mehmet Erol Sanliturk