From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Oct 9 15:30:33 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA07540 for freebsd-alpha-outgoing; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 15:30:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mail2.panix.com (mail2.panix.com [166.84.0.213]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA07452 for ; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 15:30:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tls@panix.com) Received: from panix7.panix.com (root@panix7.nyc.access.net [166.84.0.232]) by mail2.panix.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/PanixM1.3) with ESMTP id SAA21037; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 18:30:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from tls@localhost) by panix7.panix.com (8.8.8/8.7.1/PanixN1.0) id SAA16527; Fri, 9 Oct 1998 18:30:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19981009183003.A16271@panix.com> Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1998 18:30:03 -0400 From: Thor Lancelot Simon To: Terry Lambert Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: interesting quote from http://cnls.lanl.gov/avalon/FAQ.html#A1end Reply-To: tls@rek.tjls.com References: <19981009151839.A6704@panix.com> <199810092134.OAA27092@usr01.primenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <199810092134.OAA27092@usr01.primenet.com>; from Terry Lambert on Fri, Oct 09, 1998 at 09:34:21PM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Oct 09, 1998 at 09:34:21PM +0000, Terry Lambert wrote: > > Being able to write a boot loader is *not* the issue. > > > > The fact that the ARC or AlphaBIos console doesn't include PALcode that's > > UNIX-friendly is the issue. The SRM console image includes VMS and OSF/1 > > PALcode; NetBSd uses the OSF/1 PALcode. The ARC console includes Windows NT > > PALcode; Linux hacks around this by including its own PALcode in MILO. > > Isn't this more of a case of us running a UNIX that isn't ARC PALcode > friendly? > > I realize that this would require some substantial code changes to > things like the platform specific VM code; but the payback is the > ability to run on all the Alpha hardware out there. With a crippled VM system that couldn't use the whole 64 bits of address space, among other miscellaneous ways to lose, at least last time I checked. That was quite a while ago, however. Maybe they've stopped trying quite so hard to lose in recent implementations. Thor To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message