From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 11 18:18:22 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B186C1065670 for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:18:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eculp@casasponti.net) Received: from ns2.bafirst.com (72-12-2-19.static.networktel.net [72.12.2.19]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7460F8FC1F for ; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:18:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from eculp@casasponti.net) Received: from casasponti.net ([201.155.7.3]) by ns2.bafirst.com with esmtp; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:18:20 -0600 id 000D4CB6.4941596C.00016761 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 80) by casasponti.net with local; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:18:19 -0600 id 00130C29.4941596B.00008C79 Received: from dsl-189-129-13-127.prod-infinitum.com.mx (dsl-189-129-13-127.prod-infinitum.com.mx [189.129.13.127]) by intranet.casasponti.net (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:18:19 -0600 Message-ID: <20081211121819.17qwm4xctzdwwgc88@intranet.casasponti.net> Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:18:19 -0600 From: eculp@casasponti.net To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <4be2da2e0812062344y26eddcc9sf589531d10c71a1c@mail.gmail.com> <20081207093713.O5433@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081207082932.04a7cf16@scorpio> <11167f520812070853i3b6fa6dei6e5c71669416470@mail.gmail.com> <20081207191727.V1610@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081207193517.GA20905@laverenz.de> <20081207121431.5dcb37f9@gom.home> <1228733482.4495.14.camel@laptop1.herveybayaustralia.com.au> <20081211122714.W4172@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20081211071914.278ae942@scorpio> <20081211133632.114d77c7.freebsd@edvax.de> <1229002806.2749.51.camel@frodon.be-bif.ulb.ac.be> <20081211155500.H1327@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <1229008984.2749.74.camel@frodon.be-bif.ulb.ac.be> In-Reply-To: <1229008984.2749.74.camel@frodon.be-bif.ulb.ac.be> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (5.0-cvs) X-Remote-Browser: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.8.1.18) Gecko/20081114 Firefox/2.0.0.18 X-IMP-Server: 201.155.7.3 X-Originating-IP: 189.129.13.127 X-Originating-User: eculp@casasponti.net Subject: Re: Why FreeBSD not popular on hardware vendors X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:18:22 -0000 Quoting Julien Cigar : > On Thu, 2008-12-11 at 15:56 +0100, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> > - on almost all my machines I have problems with CD/DVD drives, mostly >> > things like READ_BIG timeout, etc. I tried almost everything (disabling >> > ACPI, DMA, upgrading the drive BIOS, etc), disabling DMA resolved some >> > problems, but it's still impossible to burn a DVD for example. >> >> i don't have. i use only atapicam+cd driver, no acd. > > Of course I tried atapicam too (I even removed acd totally from the > kernel), but it doesn't resolve the problem(s) I assume that you made the recommended links en /etc/devfs.conf etc. =20 so I won't go into it but it has been literally years that I haven't =20 had an issue burning cd's or dvd's be it music, movies, OS's built =20 here or elsewhere. I've just recently started trusting all my burning =20 to k3b because I like the music for success after finishing the burn. ;) It works on all my different machines, even a cheapy acer laptop with dvdrw. As I said, I've not seen it NOT work on any and all cheap hardware in =20 a long, long time. I guess maybe I'm just lucky. ed P.S. The only thing that doesn't work on my cheapy laptop is the =20 crystal eye webcam but I think that even the linux crowd is having =20 issues with it plus I'm too old to want to send my video. > >> >> > - my mouse (a Logitec MX 300, USB) is still undetected at boot. Every >> > time I have to unplug/plug it after boot. Not a big deal I admit, but >> > boring. >> > - USB mass storage plug/unplug sometimes causes system panic. I know >> >> never got such thing, except when i forgot to unmount >> > > "except when i forgot to unmount" -> yep, the problem lies here, it's so > natural to just unplug an USB device > >> > that this is a well known bug that require some rearchitecting and that >> > a proper umount has always been the way to umount a drive, but, >> > honestly, you cannot seriously convince someone to use FreeBSD with >> > things like this ... >> > - Altough ports are fantastic, building things like OpenOffice or ... i= s >> > just inhuman, especially when you cannot use -j for building ports (but >> > it's being resolved I think). Of course there are packages, but it's fa= r >> > less friendly to use (and manage) than apt-get/dpkg. >> >> you may pkg_add from ftp repository > > of course .. too bad that there is no pkg_upgrade > > -- > Julien Cigar > Belgian Biodiversity Platform > http://www.biodiversity.be > Universit=C3=A9 Libre de Bruxelles (ULB) > Campus de la Plaine CP 257 > B=C3=A2timent NO, Bureau 4 N4 115C (Niveau 4) > Boulevard du Triomphe, entr=C3=A9e ULB 2 > B-1050 Bruxelles > Mail: jcigar@ulb.ac.be > @biobel: http://biobel.biodiversity.be/person/show/471 > Tel : 02 650 57 52 > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.or= g" >