From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Feb 5 05:59:49 1996 Return-Path: owner-questions Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id FAA27374 for questions-outgoing; Mon, 5 Feb 1996 05:59:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from uswat.advtech.uswest.com (uswat.advtech.uswest.com [130.13.16.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id FAA27369 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 1996 05:59:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from egate.mnet.uswest.com ([151.116.23.138]) by uswat.advtech.uswest.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id GAA06159; Mon, 5 Feb 1996 06:59:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from easthub (easthub.mnet.uswest.com [151.117.26.86]) by egate.mnet.uswest.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id HAA00844; Mon, 5 Feb 1996 07:07:44 -0700 (MST) Received: by easthub.mnet.uswest.com (M-Net Hub.951228) Received: from astro.acs.uswest.com by acs.uswest.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA11346; Mon, 5 Feb 1996 07:59:40 -0600 Received: from kermit.acs.uswest.com by astro.acs.uswest.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id HAA21164; Mon, 5 Feb 1996 07:59:37 -0600 From: ptroot@uswest.com (Paul T. Root) Received: by kermit.acs.uswest.com (5.x/SPARCbook_POP1.1) id AA01206; Mon, 5 Feb 1996 07:59:37 -0600 Message-Id: <9602051359.AA01206@kermit.acs.uswest.com> Subject: Re: Elm, Pine, or ? To: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu Date: Mon, 5 Feb 1996 07:59:36 -0600 (CST) Cc: ANDRSN@hoover.stanford.edu, questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: from "Doug White" at Feb 3, 96 01:55:37 pm X-Organization: !nterprise Networking Services X-Phone: (612) 663-1979 X-Fax: (612) 663-8030 X-Page: (800) SKY-PAGE PIN: 537-7270 X-Address: 200 S. 5th St., Suite 1100 X-Address: Minneapolis, MN 55402 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk In a previous message, Doug White said: > > On Fri, 2 Feb 1996, Annelise Anderson wrote: > > > I just discovered I can use sendmail or mail from FreeBSD running on my > > office computer. > > :-) > > > My e-mail arrives, however, on a VAX (where I like > > to keep it). The VAX is really awkward when replying to messages--no > > automatic quoting and character-by-character delete of footers etc. > > I see. There is a VMS version of Pine, ever try running it on the VAX? > > > It would be nice to be able to reply to messages using something with a > > few more features, possibly Pine or Elm. I used pkg_add for Pine but > > Elm needs to be ported, and an effort to port it produces "Checksum > > mismatch for elm2.4.tar.z. The office system is 2.0.5 from the cdrom. > > > Any views on Pine vs. Elm for this sort of thing? Or anything else? > > You're probably asking for it on this one... > > I personally like Pine. It's a comfortable environment and has the mix > of features I like. It's based on Elm so you could call it the next gen > Elm. I have never used Elm so I'm not going to say anything about it. I've used both, and much prefer Elm. As an SA, I try to use all kinds of mailers to see what's best for my users (and to know a little of what there using). Since '87, I've always gone back to elm. I compiles quite easily on FreeBSD, you just need to ftp it first and put it in your /usr/ports/distfiles. Actually, I'd recommend getting 2.4 PL25 and just running configure. What I don't understand is why pine can be in the distfiles and elm can't. If Pine is based on Elm (and it is) shouldn't it be under the same copyright restriction? > > Also if I reply to a message using elm or pine could I use the VAX > > return address and forward a copy to the VAX (to myself, I guess) so > > that the VAX remains the central receiving and storage computer for > > the e-mail? > > Your problem will be getting the mail off the VAX in the first place. > > Are they running a pop daemon that you could pull mail off with? Sending > it isn't the problem, it's retrieving it. Couldn't 'movemail' be used if pop isn't there. You can get movemail with the Netscape (2.0 beta) distribution. > Doug White | University of Oregon > Internet: dwhite@gladstone.uoregon.edu | Residence Networking Assistant > http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | Computer Science Major Paul. -- Paul T. Root - USWEST !NTERPRISE Networking Service ptroot@uswest.com Miscellaneous Ramblings of a Madman.