From owner-freebsd-current Thu Dec 9 6:52:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mojave.sitaranetworks.com (mojave.sitaranetworks.com [199.103.141.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10F6E15254; Thu, 9 Dec 1999 06:52:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@mojave.sitaranetworks.com) Message-ID: <19991208214001.56508@mojave.sitaranetworks.com> Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 21:40:01 -0500 From: Greg Lehey To: Brad Knowles , Mike Smith , Julian Elischer Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADSUP: wd driver will be retired! Reply-To: Greg Lehey References: <199912081856.KAA06231@mass.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: ; from Brad Knowles on Wed, Dec 08, 1999 at 08:23:24PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wednesday, 8 December 1999 at 20:23:24 +0100, Brad Knowles wrote: > At 10:56 AM -0800 1999/12/8, Mike Smith wrote: > >> The right attitude to be taking now is "here is where the ata drivers >> still fall down" or "here are patches to them to replace this >> functionality". Think about the longer-term goals here folks. > > I understand where Julian is coming from. In fact, my initial > reaction was the same. However, I have reluctantly been converted to > be in agreement with Mike and Søren (among others). > > This is -CURRENT. It pains me to say it, but anyone trying to > run anything "useful" on -CURRENT gets what they deserve. This is > the only place where we can make clean breaks with the past, and as > painful as that can be, we simply have to do that occasionally. Next month it'll be -RELEASE. This isn't the time to remove such significant functionality. If it weren't for that, I'd agree with you. Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message