From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Sep 29 19:20:09 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA02000 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 19:20:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA01900 for ; Tue, 29 Sep 1998 19:19:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id LAA14636; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 11:49:38 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) id LAA16847; Wed, 30 Sep 1998 11:49:37 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <19980930114936.M15172@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 11:49:36 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: John Birrell Cc: ctapang@easystreet.com, chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: What would it take to build the FreeBSD kernel into Portable Executable (PE) format? References: <19980930092623.F15172@freebie.lemis.com> <199809300225.MAA02467@cimlogic.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <199809300225.MAA02467@cimlogic.com.au>; from John Birrell on Wed, Sep 30, 1998 at 12:25:06PM +1000 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wednesday, 30 September 1998 at 12:25:06 +1000, John Birrell wrote: > Greg Lehey wrote: >> On Tuesday, 29 September 1998 at 16:40:42 -0700, Carlos C. Tapang wrote: >>> I have been watching with interest your progress in converting from aout to >>> ELF. I am not ELFish and am seriously considering the idea of starting all >>> over and converting, at least the FreeBSD core kernel, into Microsoft's PE >>> format. I understand that one of the things that need to be done is to >>> change the bootloader to recognize the PE format. Are there other things I >>> need to change? (The application loader will need to be modified also, of >>> course). >>> >>> You are probably wondering, what for? Well, this is just the start of a much >>> bigger project I am contemplating. I am thinking of starting a project along >>> the lines of WINE, a Windows emulator for Linux. But instead of just an >>> emulator, I want to build a Windows clone. The clone will use the FreeBSD >>> core kernel (use process/task/thread management, virtual memory modules >>> only). I'm sure most of you will have a strong opinion one way or another >>> about this. Let's hear them! >> >> Interesting. This parallels my ongoing work in rewriting FreeBSD in >> GNU Emacs LISP. > > I thought it has decided that rewriting the FreeBSD kernel in Java was > the more portable solution. This is very much a matter of opinion. Some say that Java's day is past, and maybe we should use Perl, TCL or Guile. Despite the GPL, I tend to Guile, and was planning to migrate the LISP version in that direction. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message