From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Jul 6 21: 4: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from theory1.physics.iisc.ernet.in (theory1.physics.iisc.ernet.in [144.16.71.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A4B0C37B563 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 21:03:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rsidd@physics.iisc.ernet.in) Received: (qmail 4647 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2000 04:03:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO theory3.physics.iisc.ernet.in) (qmailr@144.16.71.158) by theory1.physics.iisc.ernet.in with SMTP; 7 Jul 2000 04:03:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 3345 invoked by uid 211); 7 Jul 2000 04:03:48 -0000 Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 09:33:48 +0530 From: Rahul Siddharthan To: Brett Glass Cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: No port of Opera? (Was: ((FreeBSD : Linux) :: (OS/2 : Windows))) Message-ID: <20000707093348.A3336@physics.iisc.ernet.in> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20000706193313.04a8ca40@localhost> <53082.962927902@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20000706193313.04a8ca40@localhost> <20000707074448.A4511@physics.iisc.ernet.in> <4.3.2.7.2.20000706203912.047e4f00@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20000706203912.047e4f00@localhost>; from brett@lariat.org on Thu, Jul 06, 2000 at 08:46:05PM -0600 X-Operating-System: Linux 2.4.0-test3 i686 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Remember, most open source software consists of copies of commercial > products. The commercial products need to be there first. And the I never knew that. I'm thinking of TeX, vi, emacs, most email/internet software, etc. What would I have done without those kind and generous commercial developers. Since you take everything I write literally, I suppose I must return the compliment and believe you too, but I wonder where Knuth stole *his* ideas from.... > Finally, too much of the software out there that claims to be "Open > Source" is not Open Source at all. It's GPLed. (The GPL violates the Doesn't bother me. Besides, are you saying that if something is GPL'd, the FreeBSD binary doesn't count as a "native port"? > claims to the contrary, GPLed software is NOT Open Source.) There > isn't enough TRUE open source software out there -- at least not > yet -- to fill all the needs most of us have. So go out and write your own and put what licence you like on it. The so-called "linux crowd" is doing that, and they're quite entitled to use the GPL if they prefer to. And many FreeBSD users are quite happy to use the same software via the ports. The only way to change that is to do better yourself, not to whine about how the GPL is taking over the world. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message