From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 27 22:44:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F202EA9 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 22:44:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ike.levy@axialmarket.com) Received: from mail-ve0-f171.google.com (mail-ve0-f171.google.com [209.85.128.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE8DEA0D for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 22:44:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ve0-f171.google.com with SMTP id 14so1011162vea.2 for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 14:44:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=axialmarket.com; s=google; h=x-received:subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date :cc:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=6GJimQmVomPCBWw705fZri3sMwcKQt47g6yjvP9TOA0=; b=YlUMwyQ30dZ8jN8o+hYvgwn1tF/O9Fs/7q7uKMa9rrk5hlREwVFETO9hZ5FwZNCGau 7yiKdQLlh0wG57IxGZ7GVgPfnNGBOnp7jLCtu5ZGId66mPGaB0Nx57IBvnYEq/8ClzK1 ZJhSNeEYAbC+2Qmsgyl2+D4F7nYjc5aBPZZIs= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date :cc:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer :x-gm-message-state; bh=6GJimQmVomPCBWw705fZri3sMwcKQt47g6yjvP9TOA0=; b=NglPQz3evr3cXE7SY+I0onxeqYz6VWgcrCG2BGDEluKKncWfzB59KP73jPa8minXrU fyIJJ1twqnq4bdkRMzyL/efAhnvl19beWqZlcllmITWEsDn0aA4nAEz7y2diCXSL+tmD zT7t4pP27VD/p38hLR7oXYufmC3E/CHO7xHsR8PzFKstQd9/9DwVgd2Wzmaxrm8qSFVo 6kqzFLuStqAgQnmvTIvsyQOtIT+N+0ReKvMPjNR1jfAPRnZSqNc4l8RGNefISldZjoM2 WDuf94PN2dX7hQpYOO+hkmLlDcN4iiy/OEBtC07wi5N7OluRj9A+eFHU+kf9mgXoNGA8 SsQw== X-Received: by 10.52.66.51 with SMTP id c19mr11316772vdt.123.1359326680566; Sun, 27 Jan 2013 14:44:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.19.199] (adsl-216-220-113-150.bway.net. [216.220.113.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id mj8sm5051303veb.8.2013.01.27.14.44.38 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 27 Jan 2013 14:44:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: removing CVS in Handbook Updating and Upgrading chapter Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 From: "Isaac (.ike) Levy" In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 17:44:37 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <982F7795-71C0-4455-9958-A88924C12588@axialmarket.com> References: To: Warren Block X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnhrj7qsfdqmx9QrQ+qOiMzTX1crE6lmojOSAUx2QDil1dhKa3+Aj/hhEpUfIP+NMS1G1wd Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 22:44:47 -0000 On Jan 26, 2013, at 6:09 PM, Isaac (.ike) Levy wrote: > On Jan 25, 2013, at 2:12 PM, Warren Block wrote: >>>> CVS is going away soon, and we should not be advising people to = start using them now. >>>> This diff entirely removes cvsup, csup, and CVS references from the = Updating and Upgrading chapter. SVN URLs are also changed to the = preferred form and links to the SVN mirrors are added. >>>> Rendered: = http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/temp/cuttingedge-nocvs.html >>>> Diff: http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/temp/cuttingedge-nocvs.diff >=20 > Regarding src, this appears to be jumping the gun quite a bit, with = possibly bad consequences: >=20 > + ports, cvsup access end-of-lifed Feb 28 > (cool! drop cvs/cvsup references for it) > - source, cvsup deprecated - no end-of-life date set > (until canonical replacement is in place) Regardless what you guys decide to do with these handbook bits: I've posted what I can glean as the current state of things, I'm trying = to centralize notes on this topic, here: https://wiki.freebsd.org/UsersFetchingSource So this svn / cvsup src issue is all over a number of lists, (some that = I'm not even on). Some cool outcomes this week are now in play, = (subversion-static port, svnup activity, etc=85) However, cvsup for src still does not have an end-of-life date, (though = obviously deprecated). Please feel to make edits (esp. if you are a committer and know = something I don't!), or email me with corrections and I'll put them in! = (I'm trying to capture the clear bits from all the lack of clarity on = the topic). Best, .ike