From nobody Fri Aug 12 02:10:14 2022 X-Original-To: ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4M3nG529gBz4Y1lQ for ; Fri, 12 Aug 2022 02:10:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@gushi.org) Received: from prime.gushi.org (prime.gushi.org [IPv6:2620:137:6000:10::142]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "prime.gushi.org", Issuer "RapidSSL TLS DV RSA Mixed SHA256 2020 CA-1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4M3nG449hHz3Cmp for ; Fri, 12 Aug 2022 02:10:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@gushi.org) Received: from smtpclient.apple (ool-18bb68ab.dyn.optonline.net [24.187.104.171]) (authenticated bits=0) by prime.gushi.org (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPSA id 27C2AJKq062442 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 11 Aug 2022 19:10:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@gushi.org) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 prime.gushi.org 27C2AJKq062442 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gushi.org; s=prime2014; t=1660270221; bh=oGEf+TnMI57+37yf4Hnrll9Z+KpuhI3AQiy+zbULx0I=; h=From:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:Cc:To:References; z=From:=20Dan=20Mahoney=20|Subject:=20Re:=20Quic k=20question=20about=20ports=20and=20mailing=20lists|Date:=20Thu,= 2011=20Aug=202022=2022:10:14=20-0400|In-Reply-To:=20|Cc:=20ports@freebsd.org|To:=20The=20Doctor= 20|References:=20=0D=0A=20; b=SOoxPqtc5+EZu1SCrrj/R2oLO2qMk5MjC4SWfwEgpyTpt9L6q/pkX9d00kFJe+Z0c SOSiMXTkr9ssxCQUDGl2LbIksbLs617w12IzXyjZUoyr6Vpu/JknNCyDlfdxndNj9r YRDup8PzVrUZ0VMPrDbrwnswd03F+p9Une9FZf5h9GrY9DwHUjnr+AXBNOL5zsPnP/ 5n3KzlyVzX5R1aY7DhvyQMG+mrj/jT91Bzahv/gP9P/g+GWzTXAf2UQWJ2oK0MPjdH qm5ncwqt1YBnizv627R8jvXnYH8+VeiGb+sUTlGRBw6RtugIQ9O632/dD9Wneg/v7V dQE2Rx+C5baNg== X-Authentication-Warning: prime.gushi.org: Host ool-18bb68ab.dyn.optonline.net [24.187.104.171] claimed to be smtpclient.apple From: Dan Mahoney Message-Id: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_4D55EFB0-7B19-4823-85AE-0122DEC037F6" List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3696.120.41.1.1\)) Subject: Re: Quick question about ports and mailing lists Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2022 22:10:14 -0400 In-Reply-To: Cc: ports@freebsd.org To: The Doctor References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3696.120.41.1.1) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4M3nG449hHz3Cmp X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gushi.org header.s=prime2014 header.b=SOoxPqtc; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gushi.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@gushi.org designates 2620:137:6000:10::142 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@gushi.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.19 / 15.00]; INTRODUCTION(2.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_MED(-2.00)[gushi.org:dkim]; URI_COUNT_ODD(1.00)[15]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.99)[-0.991]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gushi.org,none]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; RCVD_DKIM_ARC_DNSWL_MED(-0.50)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gushi.org:s=prime2014]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[2620:137:6000:10::142:from]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[ports@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; ASN(0.00)[asn:393507, ipnet:2620:137:6000::/44, country:US]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gushi.org:+]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N --Apple-Mail=_4D55EFB0-7B19-4823-85AE-0122DEC037F6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > On Aug 11, 2022, at 21:55, The Doctor = wrote: >=20 > On Thu, Aug 11, 2022 at 06:49:17PM -0700, Dan Mahoney (Gushi) wrote: >> Hey all, >>=20 >> I had an apache question. (For those who care, I want to see if it's >> possible to get suexec support in the FreeBSD apache24 port, while = leaving >> the mod_suexec module and the SUID suexec binary separate, = installable=20 >> items. >>=20 >> I looked at the maintainer on freshports, it's apache@freebsd.org, so = I >> directed my question there. >>=20 >> ..and got a reject from the mailing list... >>=20 >> I had no way of knowing it's a subscriber-only list, nor did the = reject >> message tell me how to JOIN that list. I suppose figuring that out = is my >> next step, but in the mean time, the meta question: >>=20 >> Should users be expected to know which maintainers are lists which = must be >> joined before asking questions, and which maintainers are simply open = to >> questions? Should there be some separate maintainer flag that = specifies >> this? >>=20 >=20 > Suexec should work just like any other apache platform. Sorry, let me be clear. (My original thread had been the meta of "how = can one be expected to ask questions of maintainers when...") =20 What I'd like from apache24 I'd like to get it so that I can 'pkg = install' a version of apache24, and I'd like there to be a pkg of = mod_suexec like there are many other modules. Right now, enabling suexec is a compile-time thing, you can't just apxs = install mod_suexec the way you'd do most other modules. What I'd like to see is those options set by default, since they're = otherwise harmless if you don't have the suexec module *and* some suexec = config (in apache 1.3 land, there was no config, having the suexec = binary present enabled the feature -- in apache 2.x, any config that = affects this module has its own language). I'm trying not to have to install most of my stuff from pkg, but have to = use port (and track the quarterly ports tree, which portsnap can't do) = just to maintain apache. -Dan >=20 >> -Dan >>=20 >>=20 >> --=20 >>=20 >> --------Dan Mahoney-------- >> Techie, Sysadmin, WebGeek >> Gushi on efnet/undernet IRC >> FB: fb.com/DanielMahoneyIV >> LI: linkedin.com/in/gushi >> Site: http://www.gushi.org >> --------------------------- >>=20 >>=20 >=20 > --=20 > Member - Liberal International This is doctor@nk.ca = Ici doctor@nk.ca > Yahweh, Queen & country!Never Satan President Republic!Beware = AntiChrist rising! > Look at Psalms 14 and 53 on Atheism = https://www.empire.kred/ROOTNK?t=3D94a1f39b = =20 > Evil ascribes to others what it is guilty of. -unknown Beware = https://mindspring.com --Apple-Mail=_4D55EFB0-7B19-4823-85AE-0122DEC037F6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

On Aug 11, 2022, at 21:55, The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:

On Thu, Aug 11, 2022 at 06:49:17PM -0700, Dan Mahoney (Gushi) = wrote:
Hey = all,

I had an apache question.  (For = those who care, I want to see if it's
possible to get = suexec support in the FreeBSD apache24 port, while leaving
the mod_suexec module and the SUID suexec binary separate, = installable 
items.

I looked at the = maintainer on freshports, it's apache@freebsd.org, so I
directed my = question there.

..and got a reject from the = mailing list...

I had no way of knowing = it's a subscriber-only list, nor did the reject
message = tell me how to JOIN that list.  I suppose figuring that out is = my
next step, but in the mean time, the meta question:

Should users be expected to know which = maintainers are lists which must be
joined before asking = questions, and which maintainers are simply open to
questions?  Should there be some separate maintainer = flag that specifies
this?


Suexec should work just like any other apache = platform.

Sorry,= let me be clear. (My original thread had been the meta of "how can one = be expected to ask questions of maintainers when...") =  

What I'd like from apache24 = I'd like to get it so that I can 'pkg install' a version of apache24, = and I'd like there to be a pkg of mod_suexec like there are many other = modules.

Right now, enabling suexec = is a compile-time thing, you can't just apxs install mod_suexec the way = you'd do most other modules.

What = I'd like to see is those options set by default, since they're otherwise = harmless if you don't have the suexec module *and* some suexec config = (in apache 1.3 land, there was no config, having the suexec binary = present enabled the feature -- in apache 2.x, any config that affects = this module has its own language).

I'm= trying not to have to install most of my stuff from pkg, but have to = use port (and track the quarterly ports tree, which portsnap can't do) = just to maintain apache.

-Dan

-Dan

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Gushi on efnet/undernet = IRC
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