From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 31 22:16:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E606E49; Thu, 31 Oct 2013 22:16:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ie0-x22c.google.com (mail-ie0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::22c]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0600B27F7; Thu, 31 Oct 2013 22:16:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f172.google.com with SMTP id tp5so6154469ieb.31 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2013 15:16:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=AMNogU5Uogdl+D2Ba0SSqqrmPfJWvpxINeAo4ELaBY4=; b=ChlAKIf99AHCABiRuaZZxknCfMvbIvfn8ATenJ5xfKr4SF2KkCPE4I6kw0b4E/D4qc 9X56tVAbU8nDk3qVgnJCvmQlGUXKGSVQyAlr7WF65+XrK6FOXPOeQ+7SXofUBvA9eOaD YYXfGH6yF8/lk3jFueMttn5jX5bBMhd+0xZo3gd2bQiCsYvpYjIcjK6IXRyHK4jJooXs aKiC2yzTWx/vGueDuf6rpSk4DJKD/m43DprOXCr0W6lYFCg3E4qYcADjzE2QuUI5kzGE ukBi4MD1Kt7MT6+505KHBMdPP+K2vee3EAarTenigV7TneLSsbj+qYAwlu5jGFoejfGT IOgQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.43.138.8 with SMTP id iq8mr3679599icc.37.1383257818221; Thu, 31 Oct 2013 15:16:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.12.140 with HTTP; Thu, 31 Oct 2013 15:16:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5272CF54.3090906@FreeBSD.org> References: <5271BC11.1010303@FreeBSD.org> <1383206755084-5856905.post@n5.nabble.com> <5272107D.2070301@gibfest.dk> <5272BAB0.3040302@freebsd.org> <5272C46E.2050105@FreeBSD.org> <5272CF54.3090906@FreeBSD.org> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2013 18:16:58 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Official FreeBSD Binary Packages now available for pkgng From: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk To: Bryan Drewery Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: Alfred Perlstein , FreeBSD Ports List X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2013 22:16:59 -0000 On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 5:44 PM, Bryan Drewery wrote: > On 10/31/2013 4:39 PM, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote: > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 4:58 PM, Bryan Drewery > > wrote: > > > > On 10/31/2013 3:16 PM, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > > On 10/31/13 1:10 AM, Thomas Steen Rasmussen wrote: > > >> On 31-10-2013 09:05, Beeblebrox wrote: > > >>> Brian: > > >>> Please make sure your message gets posted on > > >>> http://forums.freebsd.org/ as a > > >>> general announcement. > > >>> Also, the DNS records for http://pkg.FreeBSD.org/ does not seem > > to have > > >>> flushed-through yet (not working as of 08:00 GMT) > > >> > > >> Quoting from Brians excellent email: > > >> > > >> "Note that pkg.FreeBSD.org does not have > > a browsable web page on it > > >> and does not have a DNS A record. This is intended as it is an SRV > > >> host. pkg(8) knows how to properly use it." > > >> > > > > > > That seems to raise the bar for people trying to check > connectivity to > > > it via ping/telnet. Is that intentional? > > > > > > -Alfred > > > > > > You can find the real hosts with dig(1) or drill(1): > > > > # dig SRV _http._tcp.pkg.freebsd.org > > # drill SRV _http._tcp.pkg.freebsd.org > > > > > > -- > > Regards, > > Bryan Drewery > > > > > > At present , the packages information and themselves are available from > > , such as : > > > > ftp://ftp1.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/ > > > > It seems that new pkg compatible packages will not be exposed to the > > Internet such as > > > > > > http://avalon.dragonflybsd.org/dports/ > > http://pkg.wolfpond.org/ > > http://mirror.exonetric.net/pub/pkgng/ > > > > > > This will be a very significant inconvenience for the possible users > > because without an installed FreeBSD , they will not be able to see what > > are the available packages there . > > While I agree it is an inconvenience, why would you need to browse the > packages on some webpage without FreeBSD installed? Since packages are > installed from ports you can just load www.freshports.org to find what > you want. With it installed you can run 'pkg search'. Browsing a page > for downloadable packages is a bit outdated and pkg won't support that > anyhow as it will want all of the dependencies; you can't just download > 1 package, you need the whole set available. A listing of tarballs is > not very helpful for inquiries as opposed to pkg search or freshports. > > > > > > > Thank you very much . > > > > > > Mehmet Erol Sanliturk > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Regards, > Bryan Drewery > > This packages list inspection is very important because when the needed package(s) is ( are ) not available , I am not downloading and installing the operating system in question . This is saving both my time and resources of the respective operating system owners and supporters . For the FreeBSD , freshports is not showing release or snapshot related package lists . Thank you very much . Mehmet Erol Sanliturk