From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 4 08:44:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ABB9106567F for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2008 08:44:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC8868FC1F for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2008 08:44:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDSK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id m548it3V094339; Wed, 4 Jun 2008 01:44:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "prad" , Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 01:45:57 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 In-Reply-To: <20080603090611.09512ba3@gom.home> Importance: Normal X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Wed, 04 Jun 2008 01:44:56 -0700 (PDT) Cc: Subject: RE: Looking for gurus willing to help write Freebsd tutorials X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2008 08:44:57 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of prad > Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 9:06 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Looking for gurus willing to help write Freebsd tutorials > > > On Tue, 3 Jun 2008 01:03:40 -0700 > "Ted Mittelstaedt" wrote: > > > (aside from the arrogant setting aside > > of 20 some years of BSD Unix history) > > > i don't really understand the reason for the changing beastie - who is > easily the cutest of any os (even better than the excellent puffy of > openbsd)! > > we link to freebsd with beastie and there are certainly > several beasties on http://www.freebsd.org/art.html, but none on > http://www.freebsd.org/logo.html suggesting that the logo is the logo, > but beastie is not? > > i always thought the daemon was inextricably linked with the bsds - i > think it appeared even on the older versions of netbsd and openbsd. > The issue started several years ago when one of the core developers started agitating for a different graphic. Apparently he had been asked too many times for his taste if the FreeBSD project had something to do with devil worship. A long drawn out argument ensued but core being core got their way. Core then started claiming Beastie wasn't a logo, he was a mascot and that it why we needed a logo (despite the fact that Beastie has been used as a logo for years) As a peace offering they tried the contest idea. The submissions were so crappy they extended the contest deadline. Finally they got a submission that they decided was OK and that "won" the contest. The FreeBSD community was not allowed to see the other entrants. It was your basic star chamber decision. Ted