From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jun 7 20:44:05 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 704DD106567E; Sat, 7 Jun 2008 20:44:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from emss@free.fr) Received: from mallaury.nerim.net (mallaury.ipv6.nerim.net [IPv6:2001:7a8:1:5::82]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37DAE8FC19; Sat, 7 Jun 2008 20:44:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from emss@free.fr) Received: from srvbsdnanssv.interne.kisoft-services.com (kisoft.net1.nerim.net [62.212.107.51]) by mallaury.nerim.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C09F54F3B8; Sat, 7 Jun 2008 22:43:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by srvbsdnanssv.interne.kisoft-services.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C449417090; Sat, 7 Jun 2008 22:44:05 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at interne.kisoft-services.com Received: from srvbsdnanssv.interne.kisoft-services.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (srvbsdnanssv.interne.kisoft-services.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cbeBagOpfPWk; Sat, 7 Jun 2008 22:44:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: by srvbsdnanssv.interne.kisoft-services.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C93AB17239; Sat, 7 Jun 2008 22:44:02 +0200 (CEST) To: Jo Rhett From: Eric Masson In-Reply-To: (Jo Rhett's message of "Sat, 7 Jun 2008 13:15:18 -0700") References: <9B7FE91B-9C2E-4732-866C-930AC6022A40@netconsonance.com> <4846D849.2090005@FreeBSD.org> <4846E14C.709@FreeBSD.org> <48472CCF.8080101@FreeBSD.org> <4847EF62.1070709@rxsec.com> <4847F814.10409@FreeBSD.org> <4847FB1D.1050400@rxsec.com> <4847FFDE.8000209@FreeBSD.org> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 6.3-RELEASE-p1 i386 Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 22:44:02 +0200 Message-ID: <8663slq8kt.fsf@srvbsdnanssv.interne.kisoft-services.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1008 (Gnus v5.10.8) XEmacs/21.5-b28 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Kris Kennaway , FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: please stop being nasty to people. X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 20:44:05 -0000 Jo Rhett writes: Hi, >> Yes, and this is the FreeBSD definition of "long term support". >> Don't like it? Do something about it. > > Kris, is this kind of repeated nastiness necessary? This is not nastiness, if you don't like the way the project manages release lifecycle, you have workarounds : - Test new release-candidates to verify no regression pop up in your standard setup, fill PRs about problems if needed and help project developpers to make the release better. - Pay someone to maintain the One True Release that suits your particular needs. - Use an os/distro that has the kind of long term support you seem to need. You just can't expect to moan on a mailing list about hypothetical bugs that would impact your setup and be welcomed as the new messiah as you demand extended support for a previous release just because you haven't done your homework. -- > Follow-up fmb.linux, parce que la charte de fca.emacs, redigee par mes > soins, interdit les trolls GNU Emacs/XEmacs, sur lesquels je suis le > premier a me lancer :-) -+- JK in guide du linuxien pervers - bien configurer sa charte -+-