From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 9 13:06:11 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 450F916A4CE for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 13:06:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from newsguy.com (smtp.newsguy.com [129.250.170.69]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5202F43D41 for ; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 13:06:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com (200-096-164-005.bsace705.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br [200.96.164.5]) by newsguy.com (8.12.9/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i09L60PQ082017; Fri, 9 Jan 2004 13:06:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Message-ID: <3FFF1799.5090807@newsguy.com> Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 19:05:29 -0200 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 X-Accept-Language: en,pt-BR,pt,en-GB,en-US,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Roman Neuhauser References: <20040109203839.GK5994@freepuppy.bellavista.cz> In-Reply-To: <20040109203839.GK5994@freepuppy.bellavista.cz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-hackers Subject: Re: beastie boot menu, 4th (forth) X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2004 21:06:11 -0000 Roman Neuhauser wrote: > Here's the question perhaps more appropriate for hackers@: > > I looked into ripping the ascii-art out, but am quite scared. However, > forth looks like it's an interesting (love/hate kind of thing) language, > and I'd like to get my hands on it. Can anyone recommend good (or just > any, really) introductory material? google quickly degrades into misses, > and just a few even of those. As someone has already replied, disabling the beastie menu is simple, and requires but a single line in /boot/loader.conf. On the other hand, I'd recommend cheking out the Forth Interest Group web page (http://www.forth.org/) if you want to search for reading material. And, yes, it's a love/hate kind of thing. :-) I think someone ported a userland version of Forth as lang/ficl. -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org capo@the.great.underground.bsdconpiracy.org In related news Microsoft Windows users are now covered under the Americans with Disabilities Act.