From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Nov 4 04:17:52 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC37916A41F for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 04:17:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from krinklyfig@comcast.net) Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net (sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5035643D46 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 04:17:52 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from krinklyfig@comcast.net) Received: from smogmonster.local (pcp0010916331pcs.albqrq01.nm.comcast.net[68.35.114.183]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with ESMTP id <2005110404171101100mq254e>; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 04:17:51 +0000 From: Joshua Tinnin To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 21:17:02 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.2 References: <20051104023157.84F2C20F01@krell.webweaver.net> <436ADDAD.4040406@miensk.com> In-Reply-To: <436ADDAD.4040406@miensk.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200511032117.05947.krinklyfig@comcast.net> Cc: ac Subject: Re: freebsd-advocacy Digest, Vol 124, Issue 3 X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 04:17:52 -0000 On Thu 3 Nov 05 21:03, ac wrote: > But IMO this funny red ball _r_e_a_l_l_y_ looks more attractive for > newbies. At least, my co-workers (average PC users) have found it > "friendly" and "intriguing", even "sexy". I always figured those people would be better off getting a Mac. Not that there's anything wrong with Macs or attracting new users, but not sure the target demographic should be "average PC users." Can you picture them using FreeBSD? Maybe I underestimate them or misunderstand ... And not that FreeBSD can't be made easier, but I prefer the idea that it should always be suitable to use in UNIX server environments, including with headless installs and/or serial consoles. I realize that most people who do the installation and administration of such systems aren't going to be interested in marketing, though the executive team might be (and they probably have more to say about platform decisions in the end), but I don't know that FreeBSD should attract the "average PC user." Alas, it's not up to me ... though I think Beastie is a classic design with years of brand recognition, and it could be incorporated into an "official" logo (I know, it's not likely to work out like that ...). This whole thing reminds me of the Poochie character on Itchy and Scratchie (The Simpsons). Bleh ... - jt