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> > [ Moved to -chat, and reduced Cc list somewhat ]
> > 
> >> > > type-checking than C, (but before anybody suggest it: "...but without
> >> > > all
> >> > > the excess luggage and emotional hangups of C++")
> >> > 
> >> > Even implying that C++ simply has emotional hangups is like saying
> >> > that Jeffrey Dahmer merely had an eating disorder. :)
> >> > 
> >> > That language is nothing less than a distillation of raw evil.
> >> 
> >> Any tool looks evil if it is used incorrectly.
> > 
> > Any tool that requires you to go through the gyrations that C++ requires
> > in order to accomplish simple things is evil. ;)
> 
> My personal peeve with C++ is that is a growth on teh side of C (although at
> this point it's larger than C..)  I prefer the way Java lays out code
> (functions defined within the class, etc.). 

Java is my #1 choice for language.

> Unfortunately, the
> implemenetations of Java running around aren't the speediest unless you are
> running !FreeBSD. :-/

Depends.  I've got some really speedy code that runs on FreeBSD, but we
optimized the crap out of it.  (Not just for FreeBSD, but it turns out
the optimizations made all platforms faster, and JIT's don't effect it
much.)

In any case, hopefully FreeBSD will catch up with a faster JVM.  The 1.3
stuff is looking much better, if only we could get the licensing issues
straightened out.  (Is this too much to ask, after 3 years?)

> Granted, speed isn't needed for all things.

See above.



Nate

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