From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Apr 25 14:54:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from majordomo2.umd.edu (majordomo2.umd.edu [128.8.10.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24D3A37BE1D for ; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 14:54:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from culverk@wam.umd.edu) Received: from rac6.wam.umd.edu (root@rac6.wam.umd.edu [128.8.10.146]) by majordomo2.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA21312; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 17:53:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rac6.wam.umd.edu (sendmail@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rac6.wam.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA03307; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 17:53:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (culverk@localhost) by rac6.wam.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA03303; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 17:53:48 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: rac6.wam.umd.edu: culverk owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 17:53:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Kenneth Wayne Culver To: Kristoph Yates Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Why does PORTS SUCK so BADLY!? In-Reply-To: <3905F045.9060804@wspice.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > That is my question.=A0 It seems the idea behind ports is trapped in the > 70's.=A0 They hardly work and many times get errors about "file not > found" or something equally annoying.. so I have to go in and screw > with it "by hand" which is no problem for me.. but the newbies are > another story. Once I ran make lynx and it said I had to have X11 > installed.=A0 What a crock.. another fine example is openssl ...=A0 It > wants the useless RSAREF crap.=A0 What a crock!=A0 What does Satoshi Asam= i > have to say about the disorganization of the ports collection?=A0 When > will FreeBSD come up with something more reliable?=A0 Yes, I cvsup'd the > latest ports as of about a week ago. The only reason I would like to > see ports be more reliable is because I have lots-o-people that want > to run *nix.. so I recommend to them FreeBSD.=A0 If ports were more > reliable, I would spend less time on the phone/net helping people > install stuff on their FreeBSD boxes. =A0 So far, the easiest solution > is to tell them to try Linux.=A0 rpm --install blahblahblah seems to > work better for newbies than depending on the ports and these folks > are pretty brainless when it comes to installing=A0 things "by hand ", > the "old fashioned way". Any info would be appreciated.=A0 Please > respond via email as I am not subscribed to the list. thanks, > kyates@wspice.com >=20 I only have a couple of things to say to you about the ports collection. First off, you must be doing something wrong because I have NEVER had any of these problems. Second, many people's main reason for moving to FreeBSD _IS_ the ports tree. All you need to do is be sure you're connected to the internet when you go and type make somewhere, and all dependencies are fetched. I have had very few problems with the ports tree, and it has only made my life easier. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best OS around. | | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | | and student at The | AIM: muythaibxr | | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | | College Park.=09 | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message