From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Tue Oct 20 05:25:30 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3D04A183AF for ; Tue, 20 Oct 2015 05:25:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@phk.freebsd.dk) Received: from phk.freebsd.dk (phk.freebsd.dk [130.225.244.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C457C8B for ; Tue, 20 Oct 2015 05:25:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@phk.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (unknown [192.168.55.3]) by phk.freebsd.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id B19AB4F860; Tue, 20 Oct 2015 05:25:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id t9K5PRwE095400; Tue, 20 Oct 2015 05:25:27 GMT (envelope-from phk@phk.freebsd.dk) To: RW cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Depreciate and remove gbde In-reply-to: <20151019234855.4ed82051@gumby.homeunix.com> From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" References: <56237623.5010702@fizk.net> <201510182329.t9INTarc018248@fire.js.berklix.net> <20151019061930.461285f8@freyja.zeit4.iv.bundesimmobilien.de> <20151019234855.4ed82051@gumby.homeunix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <95398.1445318727.1@critter.freebsd.dk> Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 05:25:27 +0000 Message-ID: <95399.1445318727@critter.freebsd.dk> X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2015 05:25:30 -0000 -------- In message <20151019234855.4ed82051@gumby.homeunix.com>, RW writes: >I certainly wouldn't like to see gbde removed but I think it is >unfortunate that it's given slightly greater prominence in the handbook >than geli. geli is the right choice for most people. This I fully agree with. GELI is fine if your threatmodel is a stolen laptop. GBDE is for when the user is in danger. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.