From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Feb 7 07:46:28 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A2644FC2D5 for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2021 07:46:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pl1-x636.google.com (mail-pl1-x636.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::636]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4DYLnb0cXyz3r8l for ; Sun, 7 Feb 2021 07:46:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: by mail-pl1-x636.google.com with SMTP id a16so6188592plh.8 for ; Sat, 06 Feb 2021 23:46:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=6i7D/+qttFm4bx2PCx7Mv4gppSSiecdAYkMwtboYZjc=; b=eyRA7Ia4lIK7b2I32unWB+3kbVsYTbS6D8tz4isDrytBmHm0TjDODJwv/U2bP/DNIV 0CWapXyJe61macPa3Ol+wHkU8swI4e5uI+Vr+m9sk7Cg4B+l6Fw3E6wvltyf5U5R+h8r U1KyHus7fwUDI8xFQeIrbNbnU2NxVpoTgqusZsjCJEm1kOfy74j9nfOyMrCNZPkIYWOK RMyfsagHmsStWJxn5iJnZeck0jbjmzkB3NdkDtgSLqxoJFTOPl05M87I56+cAg0iDa4d FZl9sytBzhpnC8zvEYBf5QsVFyN1xin0yA1B5u/eHsWfHUX2lWbaOFhT3i4QCYMNALoY G43A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=6i7D/+qttFm4bx2PCx7Mv4gppSSiecdAYkMwtboYZjc=; b=YkkIHRxEJJJoh9Phcal6XFrsOVTvA2U6g5n7iFhi0Crh+dRliQY/Z00TGbo8gehRrj x3DgEQvXAXsYKwMuoZOlJ5fu55Z5a8sN/2YbSSqUTV035Ov8UccDwr2Ai+Y+wyp4L10w N1LpjYSZSJIhXA5mFSn8dAb32oLn+onEHLj3eJhN+zZuaB3UhjRTpkzY62oxXgfae7mE 2eIYoPFdvBQj1CXmnkAkCgFTChwQUe/51Ss11yt6vhwNH+De7uWeJo8VNeTr6vs7mdPs y3vvf8vEPWP7m2MKCF9ozzdoecZtc9wgGZV3W+RPyU3fNqblyycGFKm7egocXTfJcurH VeaQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530LA22Eah8Fa9ifb/L8GLh7PL/geAGeGhofkoPa/9euW7wlOOZv FCihpUNENQolZwXMTAp1QP953ct/wdzTpuTtr0U= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxowdqsGZaOWnyvvBuEdUA3Lfamup9IMYWNaxi3YnobmiatC/Z456APZohapM+NGcKAU297CUqzluFc0ZitnH0= X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:9a49:b029:df:fab8:384 with SMTP id x9-20020a1709029a49b02900dffab80384mr11412215plv.37.1612683985567; Sat, 06 Feb 2021 23:46:25 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Aryeh Friedman Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2021 02:46:14 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Suggested upgrade for a GeForce GT 450 To: Paul Procacci Cc: Patrick Mahan , User Questions X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4DYLnb0cXyz3r8l X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=eyRA7Ia4; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of aryehfriedman@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::636 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=aryehfriedman@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.60 / 15.00]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.60)[-0.599]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::636:from]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::636:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::636:from]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[gmail.com,freebsd.org]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.34 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Feb 2021 07:46:28 -0000 On Sun, Feb 7, 2021 at 2:27 AM Paul Procacci wrote: > I post how I like. If you don't like it, you're free to not respond and > ignore my messages. > If you can't follow, that's on you. > > No, the support with linux emulation is extremely limited. It's not > usable in the least. > If you plan on using CUDA, use Linux. > Name one such limitation because in 25+ years of using FreeBSD and linux emulation I have never found a serious difference between what can be done in emulation vs. what can be done on an actual linux host (except for cases where the program in question wanted a newer kernel then the one being emulated but since CUDA has been around for a while now this is a non-issue). I even found a few workarounds posted on the net on how to get the nVidia driver to support CUDA natively (none of them official but they still exist). So I will ask again if it can be made to work in any way at all (even if a told hack) then it is incorrect to say CUDA is not possible with nVidia on FreeBSD (yes very hard but not impossible). -- Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org