From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Apr 19 9:26: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 146C937B417; Fri, 19 Apr 2002 09:26:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0F95BEB7; Fri, 19 Apr 2002 09:26:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain ([206.124.139.115]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA16836; Fri, 19 Apr 2002 09:26:05 -0700 Received: (from jojo@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.3) id g3JGPtt89184; Fri, 19 Apr 2002 09:25:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from swear@blarg.net) To: Mike Meyer Cc: Nik Clayton , Giorgos Keramidas , Bob Bomar , chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: overclocking and freebsd References: <20011110215343.C961@bsd.alexe.org> <20020411182041.H45395@darius.2y.net> <20020411200534.A25472@ns.museum.rain.com> <20020412042041.GA80748@peitho.fxp.org> <20020412144054.GB2610@hades.hell.gr> <15550.9030.396432.30948@guru.mired.org> <20020418070634.I30474@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <15550.26754.195694.112510@guru.mired.org> <20020419080217.M30474@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <15551.51214.565995.577553@guru.mired.org> From: swear@blarg.net (Gary W. Swearingen) Date: 19 Apr 2002 09:25:55 -0700 In-Reply-To: <15551.51214.565995.577553@guru.mired.org> Message-ID: Lines: 22 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Mike Meyer writes: > Yeah, but then you have to do that to get to each window, as opposed > to getting to any window with three or four keystrokes. I just keep a > few things I don't use very often iconified, and have four xterms open > now. But they're all up and visible - except for the one on the > monitor I leave turned off. Not quite the same subject, but I love my fvwm2's FvwmWinList, which, on my new 19" monitor, for which I've reserved a 1.3" wide by 7.0" tall chunk of screen on the right edge above the pager and below the xload+ xosview+time(UTC)date+xclock. Room for about 35 buttons with the left end of the window's title (or iconname?). You can keep selected windows off the list if you want and control their "cycling" behavior. I have up and down cycling keys (^Ins,^Del) and keys for favorite apps and desktops/pages. Navigation is helped (compared to menus) by the fact that you can start you "homing"/button-selection process while you're reaching for the mouse. I only wish that buttons are numbered like fvwm's window menu (M3) entries so I could select them from the keyboard. Mike's key-only scheme is nice, except that it takes a significant amount of time to find the proper menu entry AFTER quickly popping up the menu. (Probably still faster than 1-click mousing, tho.) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message