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[81.105.212.132]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ba4sm38272509wib.5.2012.01.04.12.48.36 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 04 Jan 2012 12:48:37 -0800 (PST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1251.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Peter Harrison In-Reply-To: <20120104165405.GF8500@hemlock.hydra> Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 20:48:35 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <8C0EEF92-18FD-45A8-90EF-F26EC8762704@googlemail.com> References: <20120104165405.GF8500@hemlock.hydra> To: Chad Perrin X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1251.1) Cc: questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Browser X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2012 21:20:05 -0000 On 4 Jan 2012, at 16:54, Chad Perrin wrote: > On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 07:17:47AM -0500, Daniel Lewis wrote: >> Im running Free BSD 8.2 and was wondering whats a good web browser = for >> version 8.2? >> Where and how would we install it? ( Im really new to unix) >=20 > There are at least as many answers to this as there are browsers, and > probably quite a few more answers than that. >=20 > For minimalist browsers in the X Window System environment, I quite = like > Surf. >=20 > For its incredibly rich extension system, I use Firefox (and = extensions > such as Pentadactyl, Perspectives, HTTPS Everywhere, and Scrapbook). >=20 > For a combination of excellent GUI design, smooth built-in features, = and > stability (relative to Firefox), Chromium is a good choice (that's the > open source project behind Google Chrome). >=20 > For a relatively lightweight, modular design that offers an = interesting > alternative interface for people who prefer keyboard navigation rather > than mouse navigation, there's Uzbl (though the Pentadactyl extension = for > Firefox offers some of the same benefits). >=20 > For the most complete feature set of any console-based browser I've = used > (which means I don't necessarily need a running X Window System = session > to use it), there's w3m. >=20 > Some OpenBSD people have started working on the xxxterm project, which > looks quite promising to me, and I intend to give it a serious look = very > soon. >=20 > There are others as well. Others have already mentioned Epiphany, > Midori, and Opera. Lynx and Links are a couple more console-based > browsers. In addition to Firefox, the Mozilla guys also offer = SeaMonkey. > Konqueror is the canonical choice amongst KDE users, I think, and = Flock > has a small but dedicated following. Conkeror, despite the similarity = of > its name to Konqueror, is not a KDE browser; instead, it appears to be = a > Firefox variant specifically designed for keyboard navigation (with a > less vi-like set of default keybindings than Pentadactyl provides). I > think NetSurf is a popular browser for the Haiku OS, but has been = ported > to other OSes such as FreeBSD. >=20 > I don't have a favorite. All browsers I have encountered disappoint = me > in some way (though I hold hope for xxxterm when I get around to = giving > it a try). Each of the browsers I mentioned in their own paragraphs = are > browsers that I use at least occasionally, except for xxxterm -- which > gets its own mention basically because it looks promising. For the > negatives: >=20 > Surf - It's so feature-minimal that I would need to build a bunch of > custom scripts to interact with it and give me the functionality I = need. > I have not tried yet. >=20 > Firefox - It's getting huge, bloated, and unstable for my purposes, = and > its recent rapid iteration model regularly breaks the very things that > keep me using it at all: the extensions. >=20 > Chromium - The extension system is (intentionally) brain-dead. >=20 > Uzbl - It's a bit of a pain in the butt to configure to my = preferences, > and the extension "system" is very, very ad-hoc. I like some of the > principles of the underlying architecture, but in practice I do not = think > it is as well executed as it should have been. >=20 > w3m - I find its keyboard navigation capabilities somewhat less than > convenient and, as a console-based browser, that's kind of a fatal = flaw. > It's still better than any other console-based browser I've used = though. > Then, of course, there's the fact that it lacks the conveniences of = the > major GUI browsers (plugin support, for instance). >=20 > xxxterm - It's not in FreeBSD's ports system (yet), and I don't need a > new custom software installation project this week. Beyond that, I = don't > know what I may or may not dislike about it. Chad, xxxterm is in ports - at least I have it installed on my netbook and = although I can't remember how it got there, I never (ever) install stuff = that's not in ports. I installed for exactly the same reasons you're looking at it - fast = lean browser with good (vi-like) keybindings. Firefox runs like a dog on my atom processor, but I do still keep it = around for some stuff although compiling to keep their release schedule = is gradually turning me off. First impressions of xxxterm are that it's very good. The keybinding is = quite as good as uzbl or vimperator on firefox, but it's live-able with, = and it seems to have fewer performance or configuration downsides. Peter Harrison. >=20 > the stuff in the paragraph listing a bunch of browsers - I like all of > these less than any of the browsers I mentioned before this paragraph, > for a variety of reasons. >=20 > I hope that helps, in conjunction with the advice others provide. >=20 > --=20 > Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"